Why is Nostr + Damus better than Mastodon? If Iβm looking to engage in socio political discourse and looking to build an online presence, is it better here or on Mastodon?
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My biggest issue with mastodon/activitypub is that your account is tied to an instance. So if the instance admin bans you you have to start over. With nostr you control your keys and social graph. This means noone can ban you and moving between relays is easy.
why can't Nostr be Mastodon w owning your ID?
That would solve 1 million problems
isnt that ditto
Ditto is............a fraction of what Fediverse software currently is.
activitypub is also over complicated and inflexible. I tried to build an activitypub node and failed. Apparently im too retarded to build one.
You are right. can't you replace all the retarded activitypub bits with nostr ? The administrative and federation side of activitypub is superior
can you be specific? What parts are superior? On nostr thereβs not much to administrate.
I donβt know anything about mastodon, but I heard itβs not as fun
Take for instance Pleroma: Everything you can think if is configurable
1. You can control uploads , CDN/s3
2. MRF rules to filter the relay from bad domains to keywords,
3. Set Retention policies for local and federated posts
4. Media Proxy
5. Rate limiters
6. SMTP mailers
7. Administrative GUI
8. A job queue so you never miss posts, very efficient federation compared to nostr
9. Search Plugins


These seem like client features to me, or features not relevant to nostr since it doesnβt put an emphasis on smart servers/relays (which is good)
That's a nostr design flaw
Spam and abuse is easily dealt with on the Fediverse.
Nostr acting like a notepad file open to the public is not working well
Itβs worse on the fediverse. Mastodon caches all the media on every instance . It makes it harder to remove CP everywhere
no, the Fediverse does not cache all images by default, You have to configure it to do that. Many do not because of what you said and bandwith
fediverse is inbox model, nostr is outbox. both have their strengths and weaknesses. I like smart clients and dumb servers, fediverse is dumb clients and smart servers. I think smart clients give the most power to the users, which is why its superior for freedom and digitial sovereignty without needing to be technical.
If itβs easy to remove CP on nostr, how exactly is nostr censorship resistant? Seems to me if itβs truly censorship resistant, then removing CP is a real problem.
nostr doesnβt host media.
I want you to be right! That would make everything simple but...reality is different. We are being spam attacked right now
Who is we. Iβm not
But it makes it pretty easy to show media hosted elsewhere. And arenβt blossom servers moving towards media hosting?
Yuup I just saw a post by a user today with screenshot of their post being taken down on Mastadon because they did the wrong kind of political speech. π«€
Is there a way to pull bluesky posts into nostr?
Yes
Yes and that structure affects (over complicates) the UX too
This is so fundamental ! Nostr is really the social network Bitcoin !
They banned me for talking about Dune the movie and Bitcoin
It's not really easy to remove CP on Nostr. Maybe just easier than on Mastodon.
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Activitypub won't scale to Twitter level users. Nostr will. And the account hijacking by admins is a big risk.
Yes! But how to make it a social media of all topics and not just limited to bitcoin or crypto.
Absolutely!
Totally agree, this is why I could never get onboard with Mastodon. The structure is unreliable.
You mean your posts? Or others posts? For the fist you can use OpenVibe I think
welcome brother. nostr, like bitcoin, is rules without rules. mastodon is a world full of tiny fiefdoms, each with its own ruler. there, rules can do do change on a whim. here, rules are nearly impossible to change
rules without rulers, oops
Censorship resistance is a double edged sword. As Thomas Sowell says, βThere are no solutions, only trade offsβ.
Iβm ok with the death penalty for CP as one of those trade offs.
I also got banned from my "free speech" instance by talking about bitcoin
Welcome! Here's a good starting place to get caught up π
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Welcome, @Danishπ±β‘οΈ
This is true. I believe CP is one of the very few exceptions to the general opposition to censorship. The question is, how do you do it surgically so that other, acceptable content doesn't get caught up in the net?
It brings up an interesting question. If you can surgically censor something as abhorrent as CP, then you can also surgically censor other forms of speech. And Iβm not even sure how you can censor it. Any asshole can create an nsec, link to abhorrent content, post it to multiple relays, and tag it as asknostr. You can ban that npub, but creating another one is trivial. And itβs not like cloaking IPs is difficult. It seems like it becomes a game of whack-a-mole in which any jackass can easily ruin your experience if you happen to be looking at content based on an innocent tag.