Yeah I was looking at those. But I sort of don't know what I'm looking at lol. There are so many options, you might get a bad vendor, or no warranty etc etc. I think I would need to do too much searching, setting up alerts, haggling on price and general faff to get it. My life is extremely tedious as it is without adding this extra task. I think brand new is the way for me personally. But this is a ymmv scenario