Due process is the process through which determinations about legality of actions are determined correct?
In the case of immigrants, production of proof of citizenship should assuage the crime of illegal entry. The act of producing or failing to prduce proof is the due process, right? Am I just unaware of cases where people are not identified and then deported based on no other facts?
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"Due process" could also be with regards to immigration status. Kilmar Abrego Garcia was in the country legally when he was scooped up and deported to the CECOT gulag. The administration admitted an "administrative error" in this case.
I will never advocate for the government. I just want to understand what is being perceived to have happened. If the rule is "if you walk into the club house without a way to prove you are a member, you get kicked out" Then I don't understand the issue. If people are not given a chance to prove they're a member that is a different issue.
Courts don't matter much anymore. The Supreme Court can't even uphold the TikTok ban. They can't stop the Gulags either.
"If people are not given a chance to prove they're a member that is a different issue."
Given the context of your metaphor this is clearly the case with Garcia.
What would stop government agents from deporting me or you to an El Salvador prison? Are you ready to prove your citizenship at a moment's notice? Should we be required to carry our papers around at all times?
When the very question is whether someone has committed a crime, there has to be someone other than a government agent accusing you before the government can do something against you. Even if you believed that witches or terrorists or illegal aliens were subhuman and had no rights while non-witches or non-terrorists or non-aliens had rights there still must be a bootstrapping process (due process) to establish whether someone is in fact a witch or terrorist or illegal alien to avoid violating the rights of the non-witches or non-terrorists or non-aliens.
The only real rights are human rights: natural and negative rights. They do not apply to different classes of people. No one, not even citizens, have a "right" to health care, for example, they only have rights to not be prevented from voluntarily exchanging for health care, especially by a government.
So whatever that due process is, if the government has done it for that individual, they should deport. If they have not, they should not.
Dude, the law is a joke. The thing that stops them is probable cause and reasonable suspicion. Either way it's up to the warlords in control that do whatever they want.
Why won't they do that to me? Because I will shoot anyone who would try to kidnap me.
