HODLing and using Bitcoin can be a strange path to follow. At first, you want to try and 'save people'. Then after a while, you realise you can't save them because lots of people don't want to be saved. Help the people who are willing to listen, and be patient about it.

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rand0mguest2 1 year ago
Keep on fighting the good fight mate you’ve done great thankless work
I think when btc passes large psychological numbers $100,000 and £1M etc sheeple will follow the critical mass of their tribe.
I think when trying to orange pill someone, we often start with the solution, which most are not ready to hear because it's such a phase shift. I find starting at first principles and asking undeniable questions like 'if technology replaces labour, why do things continue to get more expensive?' tend to lead to a greater discussion.
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Josef Tětek 1 year ago
Yes, much more sustainable to focus only on those who are willing to listen!
A buddy remembers, years ago, when he was teaching his son about saving his money. I told him, if you can't get through to him, perhaps he could go across the street and talk to your neighbor. My buddy busted out laughing. The neighbor across the street on his garage door in huge letters had: "JESUS SAVES"
I think being able to help people depends a lot on one’s ability to articulate. There are some people in the space like our boy Vijay Boyapati (get this guy on Nostr already!) who are able to explain in a calm, simple and patient manner. Sadly I am terrible at explaining things and so my rate of orange-pilling is atrocious 😆
Couldn’t agree more. It’s really a function of time The more you try and “help” or “wake them up”, the more you realise it’s a waste of time They’ll get it when they get it (if ever) and that’s ok Actually really important to come to terms with this as it’s super frustrating at times…
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Dexter 1 year ago
It was my first bear market that made me realise I should never tell anyone what they should do with their money. If I think a friend is ready I’ll encourage them to learn and be there if they have questions.
Spot on. My should-I-orange-pill-them formula is… Degree of Time needed influence X to deprogram on my life this person ——————————————— Opportunity cost of that “time required”
As long as you can help yourself and your family, you should be proud of your actions. People don't need to be saved, people should save themselves, otherwise we're no different from any statist organizing the life of others for the collective good.
💯 Orange pilling doesn't happen overnight, and certainly not if you try to force it down their throats! Yesterday a friend of mine who I hadn't seen in a while asked me how my "Crypto thesis" was going. I said I'm not writing a crypto thesis I'm writing a Bitcoin book. I explained the difference between the two and she agreed with the premise that the overwhelming majority of cryptocurrency projects are scams, which I explained are just copies of Bitcoin which alone is not controlled by anyone. She also commented to make sure I write about the ecological effects of Bitcoin. I replied "oh for sure! It's great! There's nothing better for the environment than Bitcoin mining" she looked like I was crazy lol. I'm not going to be obnoxious about it, because they really have no idea and no desire to know more. They'll learn eventually though. I did get another friend to actually engage with me for 2 hours last week and he said what I said makes a lot of sense, so I think I'm close to orange pilling him. 😀 I'm patient though, best thing you can do is be patient and confident and casually speak facts in normal conversation, and they'll come to you over time.
I also notice that people have no f’ing clue why they invest in other vehicles. They only reason they have for putting money in a crypto or stocks is that simply put, it boils down to ‘I’m hoping it goes up’ They cannot tell you a single thing about why. It’s a patience game for sure.
So true. It's the same with all kinds of "revolutionary" information (and there is loads of). UNlearning what you believed (or were taught) is the hardest part and yet the essential prerequisite.
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goht 1 year ago
Then you understand that you, and no one else, created this desire to be saved.
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BTC-Satan 1 year ago
Did Noah waste his time warning people about the flood? No.
Exactly. Don’t take financial advice from gullible people.
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satskew 1 year ago
it seems like many in the global West can sense problems with the money but dont know the source or the solution. the legacy biases are so entrenched. guess many people need to experience severe pain/problems to do the work
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GRIDS 1 year ago
What are the three things that nocoiners who have just become interested in Bitcoin need help with to get to non-zero?
1. Realizing how & why the fiat money system is broken regardless of political party interventions. 2. How humanity has never truly had desirable absolute scarcity until bitcoin. 3. Nothing stops this train. h/t @Lyn Alden
Important clarification and excellent advice, Stephan. 🧡