The best thing Knots can do is continue to offer a viable alternative to Core on the longest chain. Forking off into irrelevance accomplishes nothing.

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DireMunchkin 14 hours ago
I agree - Or at a very minimum maintain RDTS / non-RDTS separately. Don't make me run Knots 29.3 forever or go back to Core.
Agree. Support the movement on multiple fronts. Continue to support the HF and see where it goes. We can also introduce BIPs to mend the culture and write the ship. Understand why we only had 20% in support and adjust while maintaining the same monentary maxi principles. I for one was really interested in the CAT. Maybe that can get more traction. Maybe we are fucked and even with 60% in support of a BIP isn't enough and the miners, big Bitcoin, ect is in charge, but I'm still willing to keep fighting because this project is too important
Yes. Squandering 20% share of nodes for a fork destined to failed would be a massive blunder. It’s akin to losing a battle and then rather than regrouping, charging your last men into the enemy hordes with no chance of reinforcement. Maybe noble in a misguided sort of way, but tactically idiotic
Yes. Core will screw up, they are too greedy not to! We will eventually fork but we have to do it with the upper hand. We don't have that now. Everyday it is more clear we are on the right side and more people will see it too. Besides, they will eat each other. Don't bother your enemy when he is destroying itself.
I recall there was a lot of naks (not that deep into it), but if the community was opposed then why did running knots not take off? To answer your question because it’s probably the most secure out of the lot I guess, and since it’s such a minor thing to change (someone running a node should have no problem doing it), to correct at the level of the node?
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Newcoiner 12 hours ago
The only problem with BIP110 was that it was called too early when the relay numbers weren't great enough. Hopefully, the failure of the first soft fork will only slap plebs awake to run their own nodes even more so than they already are. Then the real fork will come. Whethers the mining pools and dishonest corecoiners like it or not.
Won't accomplish anything I agree in the short term. Just wait till core release v40 for the miners to adopt. The holy fuck moment might be 5-10 years away
Ok hard to know apart from knots whether or not all those nodes are actually β€œpissed”, didn’t care either way, just didn’t bother to upgrade etc, I wouldn’t call it a reliable way to sample community sentiment from. You could also say it β€œkinda didn’t” in the same breath, kinda being the operative word in both cases. And thinking about it how do we know that’s not exactly what’s panned out between knots, all the pre 30 nodes and then those running 30 onward who adjusted (like me, who at one point had to figure all this out, and the was like but if you can just a set it yourself what’s the problem?) I.e. do we (can we idk) know how many nodes are actually doing this whole 100k op business?
Is forking off really a guaranteed failure? Why can’t a better β€˜Bitcoin’ be crafted and put to market? maybe something that forces decentralised POW mining? Would be better if it started from scratch though, not forked. Those who don’t support shouldn’t be gifted coins
True.. I guess my point is more, why can’t a fork succeed? Maybe not immediately. And is it possible to enforce decentralised POW mining through the code? I don’t think BIP-110s failure proved Bitcoin is hard to change. It only showed that 50% of the 5 major pools didn’t flip. That’s not strength or anti fragility. That’s just a centralised decision that could just as easily bend things away from pleb interest or under pressure from authority
Unless the arguments the bip 110 guys made are valid and in the future miners and exchanges start attacking plebs. In this case I will be glad that they’re running Bitcoin
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