The dispensationalists have a hard time with this one.

They also believe in the rapture. 😆

Proper USA moment

The Great Escape was a movie.

Jesus Christ (PBUH) was circumcised.

I think Catholics circumcise and baptize. Maybe its just because its pushed by doctors though 🤔

Christ fulfilled the old covenant and lived in perfect harmony with the Law, releasing Christians from that obligation.

Many based Catholics moving away from it. Catholicism, like American Christianity, was heavily infiltrated.

Jesus Christ was circumcised, Christians are not. Jesus Christ did not drink alcohol, Christians do. Jesus Christ did not eat pork, Christians do.

This has been a valuable conversation.

By my guest if you insist on dick cheese.

Actually we wash ourselves regularly, so that's not a problem for civilized people. We don't need to resort to cutting body parts off babies out of our ownlaziness or religious idiocracy.

Baptism is dumb too.

Do you still use toilet paper? Unfortunately most of the western "civilized" world still uses toilet paper. The shortage of toilet paper during the pandemic was a serious issue that no one in the West can refute. Meanwhile, we did not even flinch. You ought to learn a thing or two from us, especially the "Water Gun" or.....don't

Bidet's should be more common in the West I agree, but toilet paper is fine. I never ran out during COVID, only idiots freaked out and stocked up.

The point is my friend is that, no matter how hard you scrub your butt with a toilet paper it still clings. I know, I lived in the west and know people walk around with literally shit particles all coiled up their asses meanwhile diss others of not being civilized or what not. Now this calls for a whole new revisit to the hygiene chapter let alone circumcision.

I don't really understand how that counters my point that cutting off body parts without consent for no valid health reason other than potentially poor future hygiene, this is a barbaric practice. If toilet paper use becomes a significant enough hygiene problem people can choose to use a bidet, but you cannot choose to become whole again once circumcised without consent as a child.

Bro, don't tell me you're civilized and know it all when you've literally been programmed to think you're pristine wiping your ass with a piece of tissue. You're literally talking to me with shit still hanging on your ass and underwear you know it. You know who else has shit hanging up their asses, sheep. Clean your butt first, then tell me all about how barbaric and uncivilized we are. Or you can chill and ponder for a while then slowly come to the realization that you don't know shit about taking proper shit.

I never said I know it all. But I do know that religious belief is like a virus of the mind that causes people to want to control others and even kill those who disagree with them. Despite the fact that there is no testable verifiable evidence for your or any other religion. Personally I have a problem with people who decide what body parts/relationships/lifestyles other people can have based on unproven beliefs that go back centuries. We clearly have very different opinions on what is right and wrong, and what's important to focus on. But that's good because it's healthy to have different opinions that we can discuss, it's nice to be able to converse openly without censorship. Kudos to you for being on Nostr, the only way to improve the world is through conversation like we're doing now. The pen is mightier than the sword after all.

No body cares what you do with yourself. You're the one saying others shouldn't do things because bla bla uncivilized bla bla barbaric. Live and let live. Respect others, and stop being all judgmental without even knowing why people do what they do. Its clear you have no depth in understanding of religions or cultures. Learn why first, then form an educated opinion. The so called civilized west has collapsed ethically, ethnically, and in all sorts of ways. Kids cutting their tits because they identify as boys. 10yo girls wearing thongs dancing at the school games while their parents cheer in tears. The devil is at play here, and he's wining hard. Trust me the west has bigger problems than circumcision. Circumcision is a topic where people post to feel modernized, and civilized fighting the same thing the devil fights. instead of fighting religion, fight your media, your big pharma, your sugar industry, your gov. But yes! Thank you for being open minded and discarding my offensive attitude which honestly is the result of years and years of centralized SM.

The only thing I think others shouldn't do, is affect the lives and bodies of other people without informed consent. You wouldn't want your body or life altered without your consent, so just treat others as you would wish to be treated. Circumcision is body alteration without informed consent, which is why I speak against it. I am reasonably aware of culture and tradition, as much as is possible considering my life so far anyway. I'm a student of history and I compare and contrast the actions and inactions of various peoples/societies/cultures and historical figures, analysing them with my own subjective sense of morals that I have developed from my life experiences and what I believe is right and wrong. The world as we see it has been brought about without the consent of the people. The FIAT system is from I can tell the source of the greatest evil and suffering around today, it is the cause of the rise of big pharma / big agriculture / big media and big government among other problems. It is the source of the degradation of modern society. Regardless of whether or not any supernatural being such as "the devil" is involved, the FIAT system is the enemy of freedom and stagnates humanities potential growth. It needs to end if we as a global civilization are to survive and thrive. I only work towards a world where everyone can live good lives, with people they care for. Leading healthy, happy lives free of unnecessary stress and manipulation, and able to mentally grow beyond what is possible under the current burden of constant time requirements just to pay rent and food costs. I was born in the West and as is the case throughout history the culture of my place of birth greatly influences my way of thinking and viewing the world, as is no doing the case for you as well. Regardless of the details, I hope we align in the search for truth and reason, and that we would rather know uncomfortable truths over comforting lies.

*as is no DOUBT the case for you as well.

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