I find that Honda and Toyota have not innovated much but their pricing has continued to rise. Their cars are absolutely middle of the road. Used to own a lot of hondas and toyotas. Not a fan anymore 🤷 If im going with a simple people mover foreign, then im looking at the Genesis line (hyundai) or a kia. Better interior/tech. I also like Subarus a lot. That said I love my cars so I tend to pay for a more exciting driving experience.