Fair enough. From what I can see there's hope in the L2s. And yes, someone has to build this tech and I have deep appreciation for the developers as well ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป I can't quite follow why most Bitcoiners don't want to see & discuss the risks that you and @Cyph3rp9nk laid out here. It may indeed be necessary that holistic freedom groups become politically more active. There's also an increasing consciousness expansion going on that would alter the political playing field completely. It's very hard to predict this positive impact from our current situation & point of view.

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For me it's very black and white, I'm not interested in living in a world of complete control and surveillance. Hopefully it doesn't get to the point where using privacy-preserving tech becomes a crime.. and if it does, then I hope enough others are bothered by it and are willing to push back. Logic and common sense however would dictate that we should then organize before that happens, not after.
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