I am not up to date with more recent efforts, and I have an intuition grounded in years of experience that tells me the lack of privacy and anonymity in L1 is going to negatively impact Bitcoin's use as freedom tech even when other layers do possess those properties. Having said that, I applaud, support and commend any and all efforts to make Bitcoin more private and anonymous. I save in Bitcoin, as long as I have trustless a way in and out from whatever it is that I can spend privately with (Monero and Lightning at the moment), I am happy. I am also fairly sure that this is not going to be solved with just tech. Many here eschew politics, I don't like it myself, but the fact is, our opponents organize against us using politics as a weapon, with the backing of the violence of the State once their surveillance becomes law. Perhaps at some point the right answer is for us to organize politically and internationally as well. Or things will probably just keep sliding into tyranny.

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Fair enough. From what I can see there's hope in the L2s. And yes, someone has to build this tech and I have deep appreciation for the developers as well ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป I can't quite follow why most Bitcoiners don't want to see & discuss the risks that you and @Cyph3rp9nk laid out here. It may indeed be necessary that holistic freedom groups become politically more active. There's also an increasing consciousness expansion going on that would alter the political playing field completely. It's very hard to predict this positive impact from our current situation & point of view.
For me it's very black and white, I'm not interested in living in a world of complete control and surveillance. Hopefully it doesn't get to the point where using privacy-preserving tech becomes a crime.. and if it does, then I hope enough others are bothered by it and are willing to push back. Logic and common sense however would dictate that we should then organize before that happens, not after.
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