Perfectly put. More than likely there will always be censorship. To presume any platform fixes that is foolishness.

Preach!

I don't think Nostr was ever intended to have no censorship at all, but to be censorship resistant. I run a relay, and I limit notes it stores to people in my web of trust. Is that censorship? If someone mutes another user so they don't see their notes, is that censorship? Or is choosing what you see and broadcast actually part of your own freedom of speech? I'm pretty confident I can get my notes out amidst any circumstance. - I subscribe to a couple good paid relays. - I run my own relay on a VPS. - If all those fail, or refuse to host my notes, I have a relay ready to go on my home PC that I can start in an instant. - If that fails I have a relay setup on my phone, connecting over tor, that I can turn on. I don't know of any other protocol that gives me those kinds of options.

When you say “any host being able to censor,” that’s really just each relay applying its own filtering policy. That’s not the same as censorship by a central committee; it’s decentralization in action because users can choose other relays or run their own. This distinction matters a lot. We encounter the same confusion with Bitcoin: people call spam filtering “censorship,” when in fact filters are local choices that nodes make about what to relay or prioritize. No one can stop a valid transaction from spreading if peers decide to forward it. Confusing censorship with filtering makes it much harder to have a clear discussion about spam.

The freedom is to be able to say "no".. anyone ..to anyone ..any time ... When noone does that on my behalf ! View quoted note →

And the latter is just freedom of association.