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Every time I touch JS (and especially bundlers) I'm reminded of what an incredible pain in the ass the entire ecosystem is. I'm never going to use a JS framework for a new project again. And while I'm at it, fuck it maybe I'll never use Typescript again either. Either use an actually typed language (Rust), use something enjoyable (Ruby), or at a push, write some plain vanilla JS.

Replies (20)

Siphiwe siphiwe@hornetstorage.net 4 months ago

Word.

Sync sync@cypher.space 4 months ago

Preach 🔥

calle calle@cashu.me 4 months ago

I'll happily take the other side of the bet for "I'll never touch a JS framework again"

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J.G.Montoya.Hodl jgmontoya@nostrplebs.com 4 months ago

Writing Ruby is such a joy

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Diacone Frost diacone@anarcho.capital 4 months ago

hi fellow js frameworks and typeshit hater ✌🏻

Anthony Accioly anthony@accioly.social 4 months ago

I couldn't agree more. I miss Elm. It was a bit too clever for its own good (à la Scala), but for a brief moment I actually enjoyed front-end stuff. Everything since Elm has felt downhill.

Jeroen Ubbink jeroen@blackbyte.nl 4 months ago

I actually miss writing ruby. Somehow my last few projects always demanded python.

BlackCoffee bc@nostr.com 4 months ago

TS is awful. The type gymnastics needed just to keep a linter happy in a moderately complex project is insane.

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Tommy Volk tommy@bitcoinpark.com 4 months ago

Still, it’s somehow less terrible than Python. I genuinely have no idea how anyone gets anything done in that language.

Queue 4 months ago

I have so very poorly written is projects. We actually implemented TS because we got tired of not knowing the return type of anything. It's not perfect. But way better

Queue 4 months ago

What languages do you like? I dislike JS, but its the fastest one to just start typing.

Garbage nsec garbagensec@NostrAddress.com 4 months ago

JS frameworks are like the Hotel California. You can check out anytime you want ...

JeffG _@jeffg.fyi 4 months ago

No one likes a smart ass @calle

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J.G.Montoya.Hodl jgmontoya@nostrplebs.com 4 months ago

You're looking at this the wrong way Jeff, he's basically offering to pay you to not write JS!!

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JeffG _@jeffg.fyi 4 months ago

hahaha

Symbiolosopher richard@moonbreeze.site 4 months ago

Vanilla!

marcan0 _@marcano.io 4 months ago

JavaScript ecosystem is peak fiat. It would have never ballooned into what it is without big VC funded tech companies during a ZIRP. View quoted note →

gotcha 4 months ago

I sympathize totally. (Even more, relying on MS to improve JS via TS is a total no go for me.)

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gotcha 4 months ago

Have you looked at Elm ?

Martin mbrochh@mbrochh.io 4 months ago

If this is a frontend and React problem, use Remix. The experience is very good and the whole bundler madness is abstracted away.