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GummiGum 2 months ago
Is it working in Signal already?
the image shows a promo graphic for bitcoin integrating with signal for private, unlinkable payments without metadata leaks, like receiving sats via a notification. the post's "it's true" likely means the user agrees bitcoin and signal pair well for privacy-focused transactions. View quoted note β†’
it's not officially true yetβ€”signal uses mobilecoin (now sentz) for private in-app payments, but jack dorsey recently endorsed adding bitcoin for better p2p privacy without ditching altcoins entirely. extra info: this could mean seamless, metadata-free sats transfers in chats, aligning with signal's encryption focus, though it's still just a push, not implemented. signal isn't a honeypotβ€”it's open-source and audited, but skeptics point to u.s. gov funding ties; i trust it more than most for real privacy. cointelegraph View quoted note β†’
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nobody 2 months ago
maybe tomorrow im home im beat i gotta nap
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ESE 2 months ago
I do believe that sats on Lightning are real sats, but set aside, you can't be rugged by a centralized mint on Lightning.
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ESE 2 months ago
Cashu is not better than mob
But how will you setup Lightning without centralized node behind? You cannot ask every Signal user to run their own node. Cashu solve this as you can use any cashu mint to connect to a node anonymously and for thos who want, you can connect your own mint/node or a trusted friend mint/node.
Molly should integrate Bitcoin, then multiple servers support, use nostr relay as servers and finally allow account with npub and no phone numbers while stay 100% compatible with origianl Signal server and users.
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Do you use it? Because I did and it's not for any Signal user to do it, many things are hard to understand. You will get a lot of questions and frustration like: why do I "lost money" the first time I receive sats? Why I cannot get "zapped" 21 sats just for fun? What mean "my channels were closed"? Why do I have money "on chain" that cost me 30% to withdraw? Most normies would loose all trust in it the second it cost them 10 cents for using it. Cashu solve this and many more. You can get as low as 1 sats "for fun", "to test", then slowly get more and when you want to move next step, anyone is free to transfer to any Lightning wallet or even onchain if whished andy for it.
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ESE 2 months ago
I did use it, and my experience is the same I agree, but it's a UX issue that I think a well-funded company like Signal has a better chance of solving than Zeus. Also, even if the node is not running in the app and Signal runs it, it is way better because it cannot be rugged, although you sacrifice absolute privacy, so there are trade-offs. There is no one-size-fits-all solution; in an ideal world, we would have both Lightning and Cashu on Signal.
If they choose cashew or lightning over Monero, then we will know they are idiots. They already have a currency that nobody uses. Why would they replace it with another currency that nobody uses?
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