This is the reality (see post below). You statists are literally in a guillotine choke, tried 45 times to get out (voting / doing politics) and got tighter in the choke all 45 times. Who's living in reality more? The one who's going to try it the 46th time, or the one who wants to try something new?

Hodler

Libertarians who sticked to their principles are literally the only ones who survived all the psyops unscratched.

As we all know, the left...

Libertarians who are only Libertarian because of the market are missing the point. Communism isn't bad because it fails. It's bad because it deprives people of the products of their labor. Capitalism isn't good because it succeeds. It's good because it respects people's natural rights. If someone wants to claim that Libertarianism works, (it does) they should claim it only happens to work as a side effect of the fact that it's ethical. Too many people flip it around and try to say that how well a system works is what determines how ethical it is. (It isn't.)

By the way, statistics don't matter: what matters is how you interpret the statistics. I genuinely believe that telling a Communist that Communism has a bad track record is terrible argument. I 100% agree with the Communist if they claim that true Communism has never been tried. I promise you: the fact that the ideal system has not been properly implemented yet is not controversial for anyone.