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For the record. Andy Yen was at MIT not CERN. BTW: Signal
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Signal might be a honeypot. Moxie Marlinspike initially developed Textsecure + Redphone for encrypted SMS + phone calls. These were widely used during the arab revolutions in spring 2011, especially in Egypt. Moxie sold to Twitter, became their employee and the services were shut down when people relied most on them. (In 2010 Moxie was detained by feds when entering US from abroad). Moxie actively undermined development of federation on the server side, insisted in making Signal a centralized service. Long time Google Play Services were necessary with the reasoning of less battery consumption ;-) To many red flags for me, but DYOR. PS: You might also take a closer look at Meredith Whittaker PPS: Similar holds for Proton Mail which was never invented at Cern.
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If you want an open source wallet with great features without giving your credit card then check out Bitcoin-Safe.org
Andreas Griffin's avatar Andreas Griffin
Collaborative signing in a multi-party multisig? Bitcoin Safe bitcoin-safe.org got it - Automatic discovery of other participants - integrated encrypted chat - 1 click sharing of PSBTs image
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daum3ns 9 months ago
Exactly! And you can create a proton account on their .onion site without any recovery amail or whathever..
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Zryachiy 9 months ago
Proton accounts can be paid for with Bitcoin
Proton's design is to only store your keys encrypted (by your browser or app) on their servers. The same privacy model you have with ProtonMail. The BDK based wallet code also runs locally in your browser (wasm) or phone app. The code is open source so you're welcome to see exactly how it works. Certainly a trade off of user experience vs security, but better than the closed, fully custodial systems out there.
Proton's design is to only store your keys encrypted (by your browser or app) on their servers. The same privacy model you have with ProtonMail. The BDK based wallet code also runs locally in your browser (wasm) or phone app. The code is open source so you're welcome to see exactly how it works. Certainly a trade off of user experience vs security, but better than the closed, fully custodial systems out there.