> Bitcoiners for all their flaws at least mint new guys and businesses that actually get it and stay for the long haul There’s far more businesses that use exclusively Monero than exclusively Bitcoin. That’s just not true.

This is the typical Bitcoiner attitude though. If you start asking for decentralization and noncustodial services, they attack you and call you a crybaby and a whiner. Hence Bitcoin not being a cypherpunk effort anymore. It’s a bunch of people who just want banks and regulators to control financial transactions, and people who want to enable scams. It’s hilarious that you would say shitcoiners lose everything. There’s far more actual commerce happening amongst shitcoiners than Bitcoiners now. The daily volume of TRX-USDT exceeds the daily volume of Bitcoin, because Bitcoiners are not doing anything except jerking off and trying to unload their shit bags on people’s pension funds.