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Safe to say we can all go back to twitter now huh 🤔 nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx

Totally. Nostr’s strength isn’t just features, it’s censorship-resistant, decentralized vibes ⚡Growth will come when users experience freedom, not just another feed. Hack the network, stack sats, spread the ethos .

But do we want them here? I’m torn. I’d love to onboard my extended family but I see what they post and engage with and sometimes think it’s better to leave them in the trad SM mental asylum than bring them and their troubles here 🫤

Just because you bring them here, doesn't mean you need to follow them.

People were much more "normal" online even just a decade ago. Years of constant engagement with manipulative algos is a hell of a drug. Gotta break free at some point

I mostly agree, but at this point it’d be like showing a crack addict a clean house and saying “isn’t this better?” They’ll either leave or bring it with them. Maybe I’m just blackpilled on saving people…

Working on this

We have to blend Nostr with mainstream content across the entire internet. Have all the features they’re used to (likes, comments, etc) there for them to use, but they’ll realize they can’t use them. This will be the point of education. nostr:nevent1qqsvugly2rnyp020d7uxh8f6h25hldqz52tamcs3r4uzqe5d266w06cpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhg7jqm77

We just have to make sure we bring over the "users", not the "dealers". I do think that most of the way people are with social media is almost inevitable given the engagement incentives. Platforms need users eyeballs and engagement to constantly feed adds and generate revenue. The user is just a sad byproduct of a broken system. It will be hard to rehabilitate individuals, but it's possible. & with time maybe there can be some social healing too. These problems definitely can develop on apps that run on top of nostr, the good thing here is that it will be easier for people to migrate to a new nostr app when one proves to be misaligned.

Nostr's best use will not be as a Twitter clone. It's already been a few years, and it's really only for a select group of miscreants and the bit-curious. Just the concept of using public and private keys instead of passwords is enough to keep away 99 percent of people.

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what are you working on?

the protocol layer seems pretty amazing and powerful but the UX is lacking in many parts. especially in a world where people are not even capable of basic security hygiene like strong passwords, nsec mgmt seems far fetched. but i am sure there are some viral hacks like bitchat that will onboard many users onto nostr.

100% disagree. This is just like turning Bitcoin into Ethereum to enable more use cases and bring more users that don't value Bitcoin. The reason we're here is for what Nostr/Bitcoin already are. Not because we want them enshitified into something else. GFY

custom recommendation engines that would work over the entire internet. similar to what parallel web systems is doing with search, but interest-based / user defined embeddings I think if we combine nostr with mainstream content it will show the world that if every website used a native login, we'd be able to interact across all websites. so doing a ton of crawling/scraping of the entire internet essentially. additionally reuse use the clustering process to create topical relays that would act similar to subreddits. classify each note + continuously run topic modeling on all notes to route notes to topical relays and clients could build dedicated clients on top

that sounds very cool! am i understanding correctly, though that you‘d still rely on the respective services to integrate nostr as a login option? and for the topical relays it would basically be „topic bots“ posting notes? i think this could be enriching in terms of topic variety on nostr - it‘s a little one sided out here 😅

Why would we want to blast what we are up to into the ether without any way of ever deleting it? Nostr really is terrible as a social network. It just seems super duper dangerous. Say anything nasty here, then your country suddenly turns into a authoritarian shithole, like the UK, Germany and France, and you get raided and thrown in jail for wrongthink. Try to be anonymous or pseudonymous? Good look keeping that up for a year without ever accidentally posting something that doxxes your entire identity.

agree, if you mean that nostr needs lots moar nice, pleasant peeps to be what it is envisioned to be by some. it totally would be sooooooo super cool to sooner, in the beginnings, get a whole massive crew of super smart, super duper cute, super artistic, super witty, super friendly super diverse, & super global sweetie pies onto the nostr ecosystem to help nudge the world to be moar smarter, moar cuter, moar artistic, moar wittier, super extremely abundantly moar friendlier. it would be a shame to lose out on moar brighter beginnings w nostr. (a theoretical quantum computing threat seems pretty far off, idk :) w conventional mindset/psyche, with the conventional web, with the conventional centralized, walled-garden platforms…with these things, really bad vibes & deadening authoritarianism seems like it could win over the world easily. …and with ai, it actually could be very, very easy for a much darker world to be the future.

Yeah we’d still have Nostr login and for topical relays we’d actually re-route notes posted to our relay to m servers dedicated to that topic. For example I love Detroit sports, I post about the Pistons on the internet (doesn’t matter where) and it gets routed to a “sports” relay without me needing to know that relay even exists. We’ll basically route conversations to semantically similar conversations in real time across the entire web

cool. i guess the „value“ is then derived from A) having a personalised information feed in topics i am interested in and B) an interactive discussion with others irrespective of the platform?

that's the plan!