Thread - Nostr Hypermedia

I disagree. Lets take another real world example which is Matrix. Matrix has an official homeserver. Matrix is a UK based company that works with multiple governments on custom branded government instances. Thats quite mainstream and normie. Matrix has updated the terms of service of their homeserver that they will comply with the UK safety act. This effects their homeserver. I as a non UK citizen strongly object to that so I left this official instance and went to a US based instance hosted by anti censorship advocates. This means that while matrix.org is fully compliant and can scale, I as a user don't have to deal with that although migrating was more painful than it is on nostr. Now I am on a freedom loving instance, and they can enforce those rules on their one as much as they want. Same thing here, people can be on relays that censor posts that don't comply on region block missisipi just fine. So can I as I am not from there. But I also have the freedom to post to the more freedom advocating ones that would refuse to comply. So lets say primal bans missisipi, thats to bad. But I have the liberty to post to both primal and to any other relay that lets me. So if my posts get blocked in missisipi trough primal they can still see my posts elsewhere as sendit is sending it to a whole bunch of relays. Thats how that scaling issue is solved. By a mix of region law compliant and uncompliant relays. And again an uncompliant relay does not have to be isolated or rogue, it can simply be a proxy to the one available to the rest of the world. Those in missisipi with overreaching laws would have to find those, not us in the rest of the world.

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Garbage nsec garbagensec@NostrAddress.com 3 months ago

I'm not well versed on Matrix so I'll take that at face value. I mean if along those lines the center of nostr is generally compliant and respectful of these laws, and whoever wants to play fast and loose can do so on the fringes, then that sounds reasonable to me. That said, it's hard to picture a world where Primal, Amethyst, Damus, nos.lol, nostr.band, other big infra things, say hey look, we're very visible and so we're going to play by the rules here, if you want to play fast and loose then go elsewhere. Feels like if that happened then Nostr would just implode on the spot. What I hope is that some kind of mainstream normie-friendly and law-respecting Nostr emerges and somehow doesn't cause an implosion. Maybe that's possible.

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Henky!! Henk.Tech 3 months ago

Matrix is a federated protocol, so you can have a different home server and still talk to the majority of the network. Whats most likely is that instances who object to the risk is just a banning of missisipi ip's. And then its up to the people there to find a way to get back in. Nostr is a protocol though, you can have stuff like ditto.pub which is more filtered (they have some kind of spam filter) and very peer to peer options over tor like amethyst. So if there is a desire for very regulated nostr sites and relays that would be possible and its up to them to allow outside relay connections or not. But if they don't it has no real value for them to use nostr to begin with other than the identity carrying over. Thankfully the big ones tend to just be open to other clients or allow adding additional relays you wish to post to.