Playing around with different messaging apps:
- Bitchat
- Keychat
- Keet
So cool.
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Soon you will have Pheun chat fully quantum encrypted P2P message
Damn 👀
Skeet next?
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How did you find them? I love Keet but bitchat didn't work for me when I tried it and Keychat still uses server so won't succeed
They all worked for me, including bitchat through Bluetooth only.
I'm not a very technical person so I hesitate to comment on the servers, but one cool thing about Keystone is that you can access Nostr through it.
For P2P chat app, they’re better suited to voice and video calls, because those only happen when both parties are online at the same time. For text messaging, the two parties are most likely not online simultaneously, so a relay or node is needed to cache (store and forward) text messages.
In addition—perhaps needless to say—when you use a P2P chat app, the other party can learn your IP address, which is undesirable in many situations.
Using the "Apple Bottom Jeans" protocol.....
I love nostr but it hasn't solved servers so I see something like keet as much more hopeful
I just tried bitchat again and this time obviously after many updates it works. It's disturbing it requires location access tho, so I removed it
The basic issue with servers is someone needs to run them and in lieu of some giant corp paying people to do that it just never happens at scale even then funding it is difficult and compromises ux. P2P circumvents that problem by integrating the server software into ever app and making it run automatically
Something like nostr could certainly run P2P which is basically what keet is doing but unlike nostr the social protocol in keet is still hidden but all the P2P stuff isn't
P2P is better suited for everything. Every peer in a P2P platform can be a relay. When you relay a message your IP is not directly associated. Even then things like onion routing in a P2P platform are totally possible with the added benefit of more nodes. Infact the lack of fixed static nodes makes network attacks ie logging ips at the routers or servers much harder
No offense but have you considered the viability of keychat? Playforms like signal, matrix and more hit scaling and funding issues, even telegram would have this problem. What technology stack can scale to whatsapps 3billion users tomorrow with no costs or service interruptions? What tech stack is unaffected if AWS or any data center goes down?
You should know the answer P2P
We don’t believe in free lunches that last forever. We think the emergence of a relay market is very likely.
Keychat uses Bitcoin ecash as stamps and Nostr relays as post offices.
Senders send messages stamped with Bitcoin ecash to Nostr relays. The Nostr relays collect the Bitcoin ecash, then deliver messages to receivers.
is keet still close source?
The UI is so basically yes