No disagreement here. eCash absolutely is NOT Bitcoin. My co tention has nothing to do with trying to argue that eCash is Bitcoin in any way. It 100% is not Bitcoin.
My contention is that no other custodial IOU is Bitcoin either, and that there is not anything better about using a custodial Lightning wallet than there is about using eCash.
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Then we are arguing for no reason.
We are arguing because you seem to think that other forms of custodial relationships are different, and better, than eCash.
They aren't!
They are just as much "tokens" and IOUs as eCash is. They aren't Bitcoin either.