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๐•ธ๐–†๐–‘๐–Š๐–‹๐–Ž๐–ˆ๐–Š๐–“๐–™ maleficent@nostrcheck.me 2 weeks ago
Yeah... I know both sides exist because I was there too. And like you said, nobody has to tear each other down over it. This whole thing has been ongoing since I came to Nostr. John against Nostr, Nostr against John... but honestly I can also understand him to some degree. Maybe he just doesnโ€™t want a certain crowd there and that is also his right. When you build something, you naturally want some control over the direction of it. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ At the same time, I also know what it feels like to be on the other side of that. A lot of people clearly donโ€™t want people like me on Nostr either. Iโ€™ve been told to fuck off from Nostr directly many times, and even more times indirectly if you know how to read between the lines. I see what some people do here and honestly some of it isnโ€™t nice at all. Still... even with all that, Iโ€™d choose this over legacy social media any day. But people also need to stop pretending gaslighting and elitism donโ€™t exist on Nostr because they absolutely do. Iโ€™ve experienced it on my own skin. The moment you question something, some devs and their supporters instantly go into this point-blank jackass mode where they act like you are stupid for even asking. Itโ€™s like in some parts of the IT scene everyone thinks they are the smartest person alive just because you use their product, so you should just shut the fuck up and never question anything. God forbid you ask AI to clarify something technical for you too. ๐Ÿคฃ I got attacked and gaslighted by M and a whole group of supporters literally just for questioning nonsense that was pushed in my face the second I entered this place. And honestly, some Nostr influencers and devs are not much better than legacy platforms when it comes to manipulation, shutting people down, or acting rude if you disagree with them or donโ€™t understand technical things immediately. I also saw shady stuff happen with Primal. Derek says a word and suddenly actions happen to push somebody out. Since I came to Nostr, a lot has changed and way more centralization has crept in than people want to admit. So yeah... I understand both sides. I just hope people calm down a bit and stop acting like asking questions or disagreeing makes someone an enemy. Because this constant gaslighting, arrogance and hostility toward normal users happens every single day on Nostr whether people admit it or not.
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Contraโšก๏ธ reformedsaint@zaps.lol 2 weeks ago
I hear you. Iโ€™ve seen it. I know it all exists. When someone gets toxic you don't need permission to escape. You just go. You take your keys and you find people who treat you like a human. John wants control over his direction. Fair. But he doesn't get to claim moral superiority while demanding people abandon a protocol that lets anyone build without asking. That's the whole point. Nostr isn't holy, itโ€™s open. And open means the door swings both ways. The moment Nostr becomes what he's accusing it of is the moment people fork it and leave. That's the beauty. The exit option keeps everyone honest. Centralization can't stick here because the code doesn't allow it. People will find other clients that keep freedom free. That's how decentralization works. So yeah. Call out the assholes. Call out the elitism. Call out the influencers playing king. But don't confuse the people with the protocol. The protocol doesn't care who feels blessed. It just works. And people like you who've been kicked around and still choose freedom. You're exactly who this was built for.
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