Piers also pretends to believe whatever he needs to pretend to believe to avoid being cancelled but what he believes or even says is totally irrelevant because he always gives his guests 90% of the speaking time and even lets them "win" the "debates" against himself - because he knows he makes money from views not from "winning" to get views you have to have celebrities on your show. to have celebrities you must allow them to "win" debates. what is amazing is that only Piers has figured these basics out.