Going against the sycophancy & evangelism here, I suggest that you don't forward any Mallers interviews to your friends or family. Don't be that person. People need to find Bitcoin through their own personal motivation. Not by being 'orange pilled'. Orange pulling is why we have so many shallow, cultish Bitcoiners today, like @Duchess

I can see your take on this. Do you think that in order to find Bitcoin, people need inspiration? If they never come across the idea they will not find it. I think there is a danger for the principles of Bitcoin right now in that it is a being accumulated by the same entities that have created inequitable fiat systems - corporations and governments. Seems to me that Bitcoin needs to be adopted and used by the common individual. Jack, while on one hand is contributing to corporate adoption is also a great voice that shares relatable messages that can educate and inspire. The fiat system is an all encompassing and powerful prison. We should not hesitate to offer tools for others to build freedom.

didnt one of the companies this guy is involved with have rehypothication in its terms and conditions? Or did it get resolved?

I saw you both reposted @Duchess and liked my (critical) comment under it, which speaks to an open mind. I also browsed your account and liked what I saw. Now to respond to your comment, yes, I share your concern over the accumulation of BTC by governments & corporations. This can't be stopped (Bitcoin is for enemies) but too many people worked and still work to encourage govt & corporate adoption, including Mallers. Bitcoin works best when it is held widely by ordinary ppl. Finally, to answer your question, I'm not saying never talk about Bitcoin (although I would caution against talk about owning BTC yrself). It's great the work ppl do to create educational material online, and in books, and in community outreach. And if you're talking to friends on subjects where the mention of Bitcoin is appropriate, you could (cautiously) bring it into the conversation. What I'm counselling against is zealous efforts to 'convert' ppl to Bitcoin. Best for people to become interested and seek to learn more about it themselves.

Jack’s a real one.

Jack’s 🧡 🫶🏼

Thanks for the thoughtful consideration and reply. Exactly the thoughts I was hoping to receive in order to build my own deeper understanding. I agree completely that proselytizing has never been an effective means of spreading information and typically can become offensive. I had dinner with an old friend and his wife last night who are very comfortable with their fiat savings and lifestyle although I can see in them the sacrifices to happiness and peace they subconsciously make each day to maintain it and from the years of claiming to want "a change". They are middle class folks stuck thinking there is a point where they will be comfortable enough to finally accomplish their dreams. Maybe, probably not in my mind. But the struggle gives them purpose as addiction tends to do. We never discussed Bitcoin once. On the other hand, I have friends and family who actively show displeasure with the trickle down effects of centralized banking systems yet live in hypocrisy as their lifestyles support it and they benefit from it. These people are ones that I had mercilessly send information to to show them the interconnected nature of their behavior and displeasures. They are typically waiting for more information, waiting for a good buy in point, waiting, waiting waiting! Others have a toe in through diversified portfolios and have a mindset for social equity and a distaste for global power structures. These ones benefit from information because, like you say, they want to learn, they know how to learn, and with the right resources they will make good informed decisions that hold conviction. We need those with high conviction for Bitcoin, who will go on to run nodes, to understand what they hold and what it contributes too. Sometimes too people just like to know they are a part of something bigger, that they aren't crazy to hold Bitcoin, and that the world is moving in the right direction! What the fuck do I know, good talking to you!

I think you're missing an important part of the picture. For a lot of people, life under this system feels hopeless. It’s depressing to work hard and still feel like you’re falling behind—like there’s no real way to save, no way out of the rat race, and no solid ground to build a future on. That kind of financial despair is real. The term orange pill might sound gimmicky, but what it really means for many of us is offering someone a new perspective—one that can restore some agency and hope. Most people don’t stumble into complex ideas on their own. We’re not all born with the mind of Gauss, Newton, or Satoshi. We need teachers, mentors, or even just a well-timed YouTube video to help us understand things like math, science… or Bitcoin. Sharing a Jack Mallers interview isn’t cultish—it’s like sending a documentary or podcast that connected with you, in case it might connect with someone else. Not everyone will get it, and that’s fine. But some will. And for them, it could be the start of something life-changing. That being said, I don’t see it as shallow evangelism. I see it as caring enough to say: Hey, I found something that made me feel a little more hopeful or I found something that opened my eyes—maybe it could do the same for you. I say be that person that helped someone find their way, be that person that helps someone see bitcoin is not all about NGU, its so much more. 🙏

Yes, exactly — inspiration plays a huge role in discovering Bitcoin. Most people won’t explore it on their own unless something sparks emotion or curiosity. If they never hear the idea framed in a way that speaks to them, they may never look in this direction. I also agree — Bitcoin is at a crossroads. The same institutions that broke the old system are now trying to capture Bitcoin for themselves. That’s why it’s critical for everyday people to learn about it, use it, and hold it before it becomes out of reach. If Bitcoin turns into just another asset class dominated by Wall Street and governments, we’ll have lost the very essence of what it was meant to be. Jack is in a unique position. Yes, he’s helping bring Bitcoin to larger players and corporate institutions — and to be clear, that would happen with or without him. His role (and others like him) isn’t to invite them in, but to help shape how they enter. Without principled people guiding that process, corporate and government adoption could become extractive or manipulative. But when Bitcoiners with strong values lead the conversation, there’s a real chance to protect the ethos of Bitcoin as it scales. At the same time, Jack remains one of the few prominent voices still speaking directly to everyday people — in a raw, honest, and emotionally accessible way. That matters. Because, like you said: fiat is a powerful prison. And if we hold tools that can help people find a way out, we shouldn’t hesitate to offer them — not to push, but simply to show them the door exists.

I'm glad we're in agreement. Bitcoin holds so much promise at scales from the individual all the way to decentralized but interconnected deflationary economies across the globe. The old saying "Bitcoin will fix this" can still hold true if Bitcoinera can help break their peers' attention from the myriad distractions in their lives. So long as people are not willing to trade freedom for convenience there will be hope yet for more equitable ways of life.

Just listened to it… Jack is so amazing especially considering his age! ♥️

He is an incredibly public speaker, brings so much passion, uses simple and engaging language. He not only sounds genuine when he speaks, but his facial expressions also feel genuine, if I'm watching one of his presentations and he smiles I can't help but smile back.

Don't teach illiterate people how to read, they need to figure it out for themselves. That's how you sound

I could not agree more!

Yes, for his age he is well beyond his years.

I think he’s maybe over 30 now but an OG nonetheless. Been watching him work since 17-18. Respect to him and those that raised him.

So good

I also grew up in a divorced household - I was six when it happened. Strange age for something like that. You can’t really process what’s unfolding around you when you’re that young. I don’t blame my circumstances on it, but there have certainly been ramifications. Growing up without that consistent father figure, maybe being further behind financially and career-wise than I might have been otherwise. Still, I’m genuinely thankful for what I have. The experience shapes you in ways you don’t fully understand until much later, but it doesn’t have to define the trajectory of everything that follows.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Amen 🫂🙏