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Lightning is inferior to Monero's privacy both on a network level, and on an on-chain level. Most importantly it's inferior on a UX level. Running your own LND node either behind Tor at home or on a VPS paid in Monero or at least a strong lightning setup (oh wait we can't do that yet because we're trying to setup lightning) then getting non-KYC Bitcoin, then opening your own channel making sure to use the whole UTXO to avoid cospends, then making sure to properly label the original UTXO and to never accidentally connect it to an Electrum server without Tor or never use it in a manner that links it to your identity. Only THEN do you have a setup where you can SEND lightning in a manner that is even remotely comparable to using Monero bought from a KYC exchange and connected to a public node. Recieving privacy is still inferior because it leaks your public key which is linked to your channel which is linked to your UTXO which is linked to the UTXO before it etc. etc. You don't do that because you have a Wallet of Satoshi link in your bio which has 0 privacy from the Wallet of Satoshi provider. So your claim doesn't apply to you in any scenario, since you've excluded the perfect OPSEC scenario I've outlined. You're delusional. Disprove what I've said I dare you.

ripsline.com solves this elegantly with our btcpayserver Virtual Private Node implementation.

You require an email and payment in either on-chain or lightning Bitcoin. The end user has to ensure that their email isn't linked to their identity or IP (a tall order for most) AND they use a properly non-KYC Bitcoin UTXO to pay for the service. Even then you have root access to the server and all its traffic. A VPS will always offer a superior trust model as you can compile the software yourself on your computer, sign it, then deploy it on the VPS. What assurances do you have that you're not running malicious LND software? What assurances do you have that you're not logging LND activity and traffic? What assurances can you make that you're not under gag order by a state intelligence agency and can't disclose that you're giving them data?

what a retard attitude