having spent some time in hungary and met people from mostly the bottom of the food chain, and one or two folk i bumped into separately from when i was in the country, they are decent people. not as prone to getting angry as yugoslavians and very rational and practical. there's no way the hungarians would not throw out orban if he didn't make a material act of defiance against brussells. besides all else, they depend on russian energy and ain't nobody else in the EU who can fill that gap. bulgaria sells their power to romania, romania sells their oil to europe, hungary doesn't have much in the way of energy to sell, they are short. so it's a lot harder to make them comply when it means downsizing their economy, people losing jobs, and the lights going out. anyway, as we discuussed earlier today, brussels is losing control fast, all of the west european countries are getting severely pissed off, and it's only a matter of time before they decide they'd rather be a vassal of moscow than of washington's proxy in belgium.