What "actual criminals" am I supporting? Notice how you still aren't addressing any of my actual argument. Yes I think violence is going to be necessary. Do I like that? No. Oh well. I don't get many things I like anyway. Coercion? Ummm. Ok? So what? Coercion isn't inherently a bad thing. You're just saying it's bad because you view the idea of deporting people as bad. I don't care. I think it's good. You need to be coerced into thinking it's good. You know. Like how for the past 80yrs our country has been coerced, manipulated, and gaslit into thinking it was bad? Like that? "Justify evil" Deporting people who came here illegally and tamping down or even shutting down all forms of immigration into any country isn't justifying evil. It's a completely legitimate position and the reality is you just don't like it. I don't care what you don't like. You are not morally superior to me in any way. You are a bad person because you want to allow *more* invaders into my country so you can watch gdp go up at the expense of the people who have an actual claim to the future of this (their) country. You are devaluing the lives of the people of this country in favor of appearing sympathetic to an out group of "minorities" (that make up 97% of the rest of the world). You're doing far more gymnastics than I am even capable of. You just think you can tell me what I am and it'll hold any weight. I know what I am. You're being bent into a pretzel by a light breeze.