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There has to be some funky reason why this is not a traditional thing, because these plants are an order of magnitude easier to grow, manage, harvest and process than most other berries we can grow here. Maybe some alkaloid thing, like with the nightshades, makes it not great in the long term? Or maybe just the plant not really being present here before?

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With a cultivar like "Garnet" I get around 4 kg of (double size) berries of 1m - 1,5m diameter shrubs. Delicious sweet-sour :autumn-olive:

Yup :110percent: , same as with goumi berries. Wild ones and hedge cultivars seem to suck all the moisture out your mouth first 😅. Cultivars and seeds from cultivar crosses (in my experience) don't really have that much.