If "something greater" depends on the person, then it isn't actually greater. It's just subjective preference. You're using transcendental language (greater than yourself) but grounding it in individual opinion. That collapses the very concept you're appealing to. The question isn't whether people feel they've surrendered to something greater…it's whether that "something" actually exists outside their own mind.

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No. That's false logic. You're saying there can only be one thing that is greater then the person and that all people must recognize that one thing. That's the exact same judgmental, one size fits all thinking that you and HODL and the rest of the people who don't understand the Golden Rule have been spewing that caused this controversy in the first place. You already admitted the issue was that HODL communicated imprecisely. That's it. Debate over. I win. All other discussion from you on this is moot. That was the point and you've already stated your perspective on it.