Haven't hit the telegram group yet - thanks for the link. Already talking to one dev team, but going to need more... particularly app devs.
I have no doubt that it'll be possible to create value / incentives. I think about this problem a lot. Some larger players will have a better chance of trailblazing quickly.
If seems logical to me that for-profit organisations (probably startups) will fund relay devs out of imperative, as people start to view and use nostr for more valuable use cases.
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There are lots of unsolved problems but there is thr biggest fundamental issue I personally can’t find any solution to and the community simply ignores it. Consider pre requisits
1. You consider nostr to become a social network in modern definition of the term i.e allowing hundreds of millions of ppl around the globe to communicate and discover
2. You do not expect every 3rd nostr user to selfhost their relay on a $5/mo and this to somehow magically allow previous thesis
3. You do not expect 100% of the users to pay $10/mo for the less features any existing “free” social network provides
With this in mind, the fundamental problem is the following:
The only way to provide customers with okish services requires you to consolidate client and server and at this point you become web2.0 company with incentives to lock your users inside of your ecosystem.
If you believe in “free market” you have to understand web2.0 companies tried to break this circle for 30 years without luck. So the problem nostr faces right now is much challenging than implementing enterprise relay or even figuring out this hopium outbox model. But its easier to ignore hard challenges
I think we're quickly going to move toward a mesh of FOSS mobile devices that relay and use I2P / Reticulum or some such. I think marketplaces is the killer Nostr app; not twitteresque clique circlejerk.
If the raison d'etre of such an organisation (DAO or otherwise) is Freedom, then it'll just manifest in whatever way is conducive to more freedom. Hopefully we're going to get a big dose of Libertarianism from the US in the coming months, so it'll be a good time to experiment with different value propositions.
