1. I still don't know what MoE is but ROI is return on investment, not a future trade, and exchanging currencies isn't called "selling" in the English I'm used to, so this explanation of how I don't understand the conversation is just you using a couple terms you don't understand and one I don't understand, but it doesn't get me any closer to seeing something I'm supposedly missing about the conversation. 2. I didn't ask you to explain the use case of Bitcoin. Again, you said you don't "believe in" the use case of doggie coin, so I asked you to explain your position, since you do believe in the use case of Bitcoin, which appears to have the same use case but with a tighter supply cap in exchange for the horrible tradeoffs of worse transaction speed, worse transaction affordability, and potentially worse ROI. 3. The way you rephrased it here doesn't sound like you're clarifying that you mean people are suddenly done adopting doggie coin now. It sounds more like the other option, where you can't believe anyone has ever adopted it and you don't want to think too much about it. 4. So when you said "cheap and easy MoE" you meant "cheap and easy thing that might cause users to adopt oke thing over another" but what about people who want maximum ROI instead of a cheap and easy reasoning for their choice? It still seems like you're refusing to grasp the basic point here. 5. Again, ROI stands for "return on investment." I'm not sure where you get your ideas of what it means