I think that sounds neat on paper, and I suppose many don't even have home internet now, their device is raw dogged on the (nat'd) open internet. But home infra as it exists, was designed around the idea that bad actors exist outside, and not inside the walls. That's just how it exists now. I don't think there is a safe way to transition. Home wifi connections, on devices, are generally considered to be known "safe", yes we have profiles on most modern OS (except android still tmk). I guess I realized I should state I'm sort of against true p2p for many privacy reasons, I've sporadically shared on my timeline. I don't want anything to do with relay outbox implementations and go way out of my way to block them. Because the internet infra, as it exists right now, makes assumptions to offer guarantees that fall apart when you side step them.

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I am something of a true p2p jihadist, so it makes sense we'd be far apart on this. I think it's a natural step in the decentralization, voluntarism and subjective-ication of everything. The timeline: 0. today. (standard client/server web with lots of intermediaries that are hard to exit while preserving desired utility) 1. decentralized, subjective contextual webs of trust (same physical/networking infra, but the lines begin getting drawn - by the participants themselves - **conceptually**/in code for voluntary islands of trust) 2. sovereign personal servers that you can fully trust; and connect to from edge devices (on an individual level, you own the full stack of client/server, but the servers still deal with lots of intermediaries and ISPs between each other) 3. personal servers that connect peer to peer directly based on contextual WoT (servers connect directly to each other, using WoT as their peer discovery and network topology guidelines. individuals' very light edge devices rely more and more on their sovereign personal server which connects directly to the servers of others) 4. mesh networks slowly overlay on top of ISPs and gradually replace them (those same p2p personal servers can connect directly over local mesh when a route is found. ISP censorship and infrastructure flakiness becomes irrelevant in these contexts. some problems may still exist in intra-mesh connections) 5. the lines drawn at step #2 are now fully realized in the physical infrastructure and network topology of very many overlapping voluntary networks and trust islands. people are free to re-jigger these physical and/or conceptual arrangements as needed. The end state being high-trust networked communities and economic zones that are truly antifragile and nearly impossible for a centralized enforcer to disrupt or censor short of enormous kinetic violence.
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frphank 1 month ago
> high trust networked community I thought Bitcoin was no-trust
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