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Just let people do what they're naturally interested in. There's no point in trying to selectively recruit certain people. Recruit people on merit and not on what's between their legs. It's just as bad as trying to recruit people based on skin color.
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rapadu 3 months ago
That’s how it started anyway. Ada springs to mind. And the numerous almost exclusively female coders until the 1970s-ish, I guess. Something changed in the industry…
100% true! During WWII the US Army hired women to work as “computers”, to do all the necessary mathematical calculations for things like the trajectories of artillery shells. The ENIAC, one of the world’s first large scale, general purpose computers, was programmed by 6 women. When I was studying computer science in college there was no shortage of female representation in the faculty. Grace Hopper is the reason why we refer to problems in code as “bugs”. I think women are just as adept at programming as men are, but there’s something that is causing drop off in the pipeline. A lot of progress has been made in the last 15 years since I have been working professionally in the industry but my belief is the efforts should always be focused equal opportunity, not equal outcome.
I think screwing around with vibe coding made me more curious about *actual* coding, but I did just market SaaS for 4+ years at an agency, so I used to be very downstream of the devs. Now, I'm not, which also wakes up my mind to the possibilities of continued learning... I'm an example of someone with some long-term proximity to software engineering that slowly got me more interested in it. Had I stayed more in journalism, I would have never gotten here. Reaching women and piquing curiosity is hard... I think for me, even working in tech I lacked exposure to fire up my interest. And few female role models of my generation. Seems like the legends (Grace Hopper) were from the generation before. And of course, the obvious: learning takes time and few know where to turn. Not everyone is lucky like me and has @BITKARROT and @npub1qlrj...a4sx to mentor her... 😉
People don't understand that developers use frameworks and libraries, that's like the biggest thing. Like actually. Imagine not knowing how coding works. People think we type every line from scratch. It's basically witchcraft. LLMs allow people to pick up a library or framework and use it. This is what we should be teaching people. Find a library and throw it at the AI. That is inspiration for the average user. It's not complicated. It's fun. It's all people want to do to get started. Make an app that does something and you will always feel good about it. The problem people have is not knowing what it means to find a library. It's esoteric to someone who has never used CLI or done any development.
Because it's hard, dull, never-ending labor; the smarty-pants version of crop farming. I mean, we call it "grinding", for a reason. Intelligent Western women tend to be rich and pampered enough that they can have fun, happy jobs working with people or cute puppies.
yes, and it flipped upside down ever since VC backed capital like CIA In-Q-Tel started pushing the market into exponential aggressive startups out west in '98. The more money sloshing around, the more bro-y it got. And a lot of them are not that great, I've taken a number down single handed before - as a nym. If they knew I was female I'd be harassed to no end due to fragile egos :D
software engineering is a man's job. Most women don't want to do such boring work. They could be doing much more fun things like modeling, singing etc
That makes you a minority because the majority of women around the world like to do women stuff like cooking, dancing, shopping at the mall and going to the park with their kid, they do not want to be coding. I looked at your profile and you don't even post pictures of yourself. Most women love posting pictures of themselves. You are not a typical women.