New show with the legend @Erik Cason just dropped.
THE BITCOIN TROJAN HORSE
We discussed:
- Bitcoiners & the State
- The power of cryptography
- Nostr & tools for freedom
- If capitalism is over
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It would be awesome if i could jump to the part where you talked about each of those topics. Timestamps or chapters always make podcasts better.
Great rip gentlemen
loving it
Epic pod Danny 🤘
Great interview. I don't remember listening to a more optimistic version of Erik. I really needed it.
Thank you both for this one.
ton of material to reflect on
book order - check
Great show, fellas. Appreciate what you both do. @erikcason, keep letting people know there’s an infinite, loving God that is knowable
Danny, I always enjoyed hearing from you now and then when it was Peter's podcast and it's so cool to watch you take over WBD!
one great episode after another 👏
I am so grateful to have had the opportunity to be a fly on the wall and listen to these two talk live for two days in Sydney. If you ever wanted to know if you need to read a dictionary cover to cover listen to @Erik Cason speak and you'll quickly realise you're retarded @Danny Knowles you're such a great interviewer I love the way you build rapport with people you're such a genuinely nice person (too nice to be friends with me 😂). I can't wait to watch you guys do an in person pod in March 💪
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Hey Danny, I’d love to see an episode discussing state dominance of Bitcoin mining.
This is my thesis of the next epoch of b mining. Nation states ape into mining to secure their ability to transact on the network. Game theory at play to avoid any nation state gaining dominance which would allow transaction censorship. Nations use socialised losses fiat money to fund operations aka no need to be profitable thus corporate miners (with a business imperative to be profitable) are forced out of Bitcoin mining (and maybe pivot to AI data centres. All mining now exclusively done by nation states, home miners and ‘offset’ miners (those without profit imperative or who are generating profit from primary business function.
This plays out only so long as fiat is acceptable as money… not too long, maybe a decade or two.
I’d love a deep dive on the question, can nation state mining dominance break Bitcoin? If thy enemy of thy enemy is thy friend and Bitcoin is the enemy of all nation states’ power over their people. Could all nation states (jointly with global Bitcoin mining dominance) eventually collude to destroy Bitcoin.
I wonder could this potentially be the next step game theory (3) playing out?
Right now I see 2 global game theories at play.
1. As per mining discussion above
2. BRICS nations (an alliance of enemies) colluding to break US dollar dominance. Possibly and ironically using Bitcoin to achieve this end. (You could also argue 1&2 are the same play)
#austrich
Great show
A great podcast. I can't understand it all but opened me up to some interesting new ideas.
Parrhesia.
@Erik Cason
Damn fucking awesome conversation , thanks for all the mindblowing topics. Big respect , I definitely will share it to everyone I can. 🔥🔥 keep up the amazing work from both of you 💪
Are you going to setup a separate npub for the podcast? Enjoying the newest one! Keep it up!
Loved this episode.
Just FYI: there already is a decentralized #OrangeParty https://bitcoinorangeparty.com So far, it's a one human passion project - Thus, much more data, updates, and input needed. #BOP
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Just finished this one and it was a BANGER. Really enjoyed it and haven't heard Erik before. Will definitely be adding his book to the ever growing collection of must reads!
Good show but please learn how to say obsfucate lol.
The Trojan priest you’re thinking of is Laocoön 👊
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great book - congrats and thanks
that's what most people (even here in the space) haven't figured out yet, perhaps simply because they've been in it for too long
(yes, that sentence can make sense):
"By removing one´s physical body from the economic space first by blinding in the Cyphernet, the possibility of violence is banished. By removing one´s identity from the agreement, none of the current relations of legal power can find their footing, nor the violence that would ultimately enforce such legal power can exist."
This is stiil a fckin long way to go
I wish that newbies could not only understand this from the outset, but also put it into practice straight away.
But there is still a huge problem:
you call it the "Übermensch" of the digital era.
"Only a person so humble as not to speak their name, so gracious as to not claim their fame, so powerful as to refuse even a satoshi of the greates fortune on Earth could have accomplished a task as great as Bitcoin."
this is to say: removing one´s body = removing one´s ego !
This is completely unfamiliar to the vast majority of people.
For most people, the ego is inseparable from their physical self.
You send pictures from the gym every week ...
They trumpet their bio-data to the world.
Drawing self-confidence from a nym ... we are still a long way from that.
And this also applies to many from the space, who have probably already understood the power of cryptography.
Either way, your book will certainly help us to move forward on this path.
Thank you. "There is a way to get out of this darkness" - love it
WEF 2025
"... we see the digital cages and open-air concentration camps being formed around us. It is a reality where each one of us will be ascribed digital signatures which chains each of us to data to enable a Kafkaesque reality - a total surveillance state."
We are in the middle of an arms race where one party is 100% on the job and 90% of the other party is planning their next vacation.
🔥✨🎙️🫡

"Thus in Italy, as everywhere else, there exist a united and invisible political world of predators, sucking the country dry in the name of the state and, for the greater benefit of the latter, reducing the former to an extreme degree of poverty and desperation."
1873
Bakunin
"Thus it is unquestionable that the Slaves, on their own initiative, never formed a state. They did not do so because they were never a conquering nation. Only conquering peoples create states, and they create them purely for their own benefit, at the expense of the peoples they have subjugated."
"But states do not topple of their own accord; they can only be toppled by a multi-national multy-racial, world-wide social revolution."
"The Germans have never needed liberty. To them life is simply inconceivable without government, that is, without a supreme will and thought and an iron hand to order them about. The stronger the hand the prouder they are and the more cheerful life becomes for them."
"Take the individual. If an idea does not already exist within him as a vital instinct, and as a more or less clear concept which serves, as it were, as the first reflection of that instinct, you will never explain it to him or get him to understand it."
as I said: he sounds like a bitcoiner, 1874.
o.k., and what idea ?
"Anarchy, meaning the free and independent organization of all parts of the community and their voluntary federation from below upward."