Bitcoiners often care a lot about health, poisonous food etc In that regard, the situation in the U.S. is probably 10x worse than in Europe — one of the rare topics where that’s the case — due to weaker or more corrupt regulation. And most Bitcoiners are also strongly opposed to overreaching regulation. We focus a lot on violence by the state and sometimes forget the violence of scammers and businesses, the fact that capitalism is amoral: if you can make a consumer addict, you do. Most businesses seem to apply this today, more so than in the past. Maybe it should solve itself through Darwinism — people who don’t pay attention, or parents who don’t care, end up dying or not reproducing. Maybe that’s the only way, since all others are too coercive or too risky. But information and culture are probably also keys. A relatively good state is one that wants to be as small as possible but also encourages citizens to be conservatives (in the sense that something proven by times is safer) paranoid, skeptical of everything, including itself - exactly the contrary of what states do today