> "In a bitcoin context, it is also subject to definition" Emphasis on **also**. You still are providing examples, not authoritative definition because if we could code sth like this exactly, we would already have done it and made it consensus. > "One need not have a 100% effectiveness rate for the filters to be useful." I agree. That is why there are protections in bitcoin against many types of attacks against real DoS vectors. Op_returns don't present such a threat. If they did, miners did not have an incentive to mine them because their nodes would crash and mining operations would be disrupted. They are valid transactions you (and I for the matter) don't agree with but the economical incentive says it is profitable to mine them, and it causes a less far-reaching impact than doing such things in other ways. A filter that disrupts economic activity and has worse impacts than dropping it, is harmful overall. Users can make whimsical choices and think they will virtue signal with filters but I estimate this is not going to be enough when facing economic reality, especially in the long run.

Replies (2)

Super Testnet's avatar
Super Testnet 3 months ago
> there are protections in bitcoin against many types of attacks against real DoS vectors. Op_returns don't present such a threat. If they did, miners did not have an incentive to mine them This seems to be the heart of our disagreement. You say spam doesn't present a threat similar to a DoS vector; I say they both cause serious harm, but spam does so more subtly and more slowly. This article by Chris Guida outlines why: As for why miners continue to mine spam, that is the golden goose problem: financial incentives can cause miners to slowly and subtly harm the goose, a knife cut at a time, to get the golden egg more quickly. But the goose may die by a thousand cuts. It is part of why I personally want to eliminate spam from my mempool and slow down blocks that contain it -- to provide a counter financial incentive so that miners will reconsider whether they should mine it or not. And it is also why I invite others to join me in the effort
Yena's avatar
Yena 3 months ago
> slow down blocks that contain it Do you relay blocks that have spam Txs to your peers? Also this seems to disproportionately hurt small miners more