Someone has to stop killing people first. Of all we do is say “sure we killed some people, but now their sons want to kill us, so what can we do but kill their sons too?” Then this never ends. Literally. The question is, who is going to have the courage to stop being a total fucking horrible human being?

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I totally agree. The question is, if one side stops, does the other suddenly forget all that has been done, or do the generational wrongs motivate further action? We need to remember here I think, we are not talking about an argument in a bar. We are talking about ideology, bolstered by 80yrs of hatred. If somebody tells you their entire reason for living is to eradicate a people and a country, it might be a good idea to recognise that for what it is. I don't have the answer here. I wouldn't pretend to. My bone of contention is with people who think one step, then project their world view on a self proclaimed enemy that shows no signs of sharing said world view. I love you Guy - no homo - but the complexity here goes way beyond 'please stop' IMO
What’s often overlooked is that there is a giant cultural / ingrained difference between the western and the Middle Eastern man. For centuries, the civilizations in/from Europe had to plan, think and strategize in advance to prepare for coming winters. This led to fixed settlements close, and people remained in one place for most of their lives. Through this development, we ended up with a rule of law and authority in the form of judges. In the Middle East, this was much less the case. There was a much bigger nomadic aspect to the people, which meant no fixed homes, and down the line: no judge to call on in case of dispute. So essentially, when people tend to disagree, in Europe, they would call upon an authority to settle the dispute. The Middle Eastern man, however, would take matters into his own hands and settle it himself. I believe the term “an eye for an eye” also finds its origin there. This way of thinking trickles down into basically every aspect of how life works and results in giant differences in morals and values between the people nowadays, and this is completely overlooked when the Western man judges the current events in the Middle East or vice versa. At least, that’s my 2 sats deduced from my history books..