I bet you a bitcoin if I make a payment to you and you find out who I am, in the same way if you make a payment to me you have to find out where that payment goes to the chain (here I will use something else besides lightning). @DarthCoin ₿⚡️ will be the treasurer, come on?

sad. you dont know shit about privacy if your attitude is "it's private if a random person on the Internet can't find the destination" clearly an Anonymous PFP doesnt make anyone a cypherpunk.

A few assumptions are made in some attacks in that analysis, such as “KYCed coins used to open channels.” Also, some of the suggested mitigations are already active in LN implementations. Of course people fuck up. In any case, it’s definitely more private than non-coinjoined on-chain transactions.

true true 👍 I'm all for improving BTC privacy and as you say its better than transparent on-chain txs. but its also true that most mitigations are likely to be defeated as surveillance increases. LN privacy is kinda like BTC in 2013. any "privacy" is mostly because nobody is looking. ie, its not a battle-tested network yet. and these "just use LN" morons are anti - intellectual and actively subverting people's privacy by saying there isn't a problem.