I need someone to answer this question for me because i don’t grasp the logic fully.
We agree that bitcoin is money that cant be censor, so we want to censor spam from the chain. Do we see the faulty logic here?
It’s not about whether spam should be allowed or not, wouldn’t the game theory just filter it out as transactions go higher and higher. It would be like flushing money down the toilet on purpose.
Im all for people running tons of different nodes, but i kind of feel like if spamming the chain would kill bitcoin like many claim then bitcoin is not as strong as we thought.
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You confuse permissionless money with permissionless file hosting.
Bitcoin prevents censorship of monetary transactions - not arbitrary data storage. No one has the right to permanently store files on your hardware because they paid a miner once.
Game theory fails here because fees optimize for highest bidder, not highest utility:
- You: Want to buy coffee (low fee tolerance, high time preference)
- Spammer: Wants to store JPEGs forever (one-time fee, subsidized across all nodes permanently)
You pay once; we store forever. That's not "flushing money" - that's theft of storage.
"If spam kills Bitcoin, it's weak"?
Locks don't make your house weak - they make burglary expensive. Removing the 1MB cap (and filters like BIP-110) doesn't prove Bitcoin's strength; it proves you'll subsidize corporate data storage until your node chokes.
Permissionlessness defends people transacting value. It does not mandate you host child exploitation material so an NFT degen can speculate.
Run Knots. Filter the noise. Keep Bitcoin money.


As the fee increase the spam will slow down but never completely die out, it might prevent people from buying coffee on chain but a lot of these use cases would’ve on layer 2 anyway.
block size is limited anyway eventually a lot more activity has to happen on layer 2.
I get both sides and it’s interesting endeavors just don’t think there is a rush and enough support at the moment.
You don’t censor spam, you rate limit it. Censorship requires content moderation by a centralised entity. There is no such entity in Bitcoin besides core devs. The rest are nodes that don’t do content moderation. They enforce rate limits, and they always have. Honestly it’s tiresome reading about the censorship narrative. Core propagandist just throw away some words like censorship, permissionless, free markets (all good stuff) but without the nuance around them and plebs eat them up and start repeating them ad infinitum. It’s so stupid.
to claim stopping, or at least reducing, spam is "censorship" is the most retarded, illogical take possible.
Censoring spam is not censoring bitcoin- it’s making it a monetary network only.
The bribed/corrupted Core developers are turning bitcoin into a spam network like ETH specifically to make it weak enough to fail.
This this way, for public record you have to write down everything that is said. (In an English-speaking place)
Everyone can say anything they want. But if a large section of people say things in chinese now the recorders are writing paragraphs of phonetic translations with english characters.
This creates a strain on everyone trying to read the record and creates an attack vector where people embed very offensive things in chinese phonetics that when said in english most people wouldn't like to say or read.
Narrowing the rules of "You can only speak english but say ANYTHING you want" is not a censorship of idea conveyance (the point of language).
The point of a protocol is its purpose. The purpose of bitcoin is to transfer units from one set of addresses to another. Creating outputs that go nowhere, creating unspendable outputs, embedding superfluous data in an input, and creating anchorpoints on outputs that hold massive data stores are all outside this purpose.
Saying no one can define spam or it's a meaningless distinction are using somekind of post-modernist "nothing means anything" anti-logic.
Show me a non-monetary transaction. Pretty sure they all involve an exchange of sats.