how dumb can one be. using a paid account? i hope they paid privately and somehow nokyc'd their account. or i hope they didn't, but you know what i mean

Is it theft if I guess a number in your head?

Ooooooh boy

And vulnerabilities can always be reported for some bounty money too, so there was an alternative to not end up like this

Over a certain number, the death penalty must be used.

this is why I (half jokingly) wonder if it's a rogue AI. Figured out some super-obscure firmware bug to exploit, but doesn't have the self-regard to cover its financial tracks (long-term self-preservation not part of whatever fitness function it was trying to optimize)

If I walk behind a guy with a loose watch and wait for it to fall off just to scoop it up, that is immoral. This is akin to waiting for a retarded guy to openly type his pin at the ATM and using his card online. "You know the information to spend, nothing is stolen, right?" This is absurd. There's a difference between churning low ent keys and spinning up new keys and HAPPENING to get a wallet with bitcoin in it.

Regardless, there's always a non-zero chance someone creates a wallet with your keys. No matter your precaution a number that exists, can exist in two places.

I could also get struck by lightning 37 times walking to a friends house. I doubt it will happen though.

Yeah, I'm sure CC users had their doubts too. They had numbers too.

I'm talking about generating high entropy in the physical world.

Guessing a number is not theft. But if I have purchasing power in my hands and you take it from me, thats theft. If you think it is not, try it, tell the police and lets see where you end up after the courts take a look. No need to trust me: https://www.mdpi.com/2075-471X/12/2/33

Words are not defined by governments. I'm not arguing you would not be arrested. Relax man. From one bitcoiner to another. Just simply stating that bitcoin is in a sort of in between state in regards to property. Just an observation.

Paid account to what?

And again, who ever has the watch, or the pin spends it. It's literally 1 to 1. What do you mean "what was taken?" The UTXO that was staked by someone else. The UTXOs are publicly visible but not some contrivance of public property. Are you just pretending that staking ownership of a private key is a frivolous act? I know you think "if I have the number I can spend" but that is no different than "I'm bigger and stronger and I can take what I want. What's to stop me." This is like autistic libertarian stuff. The combination to someone's lock is just a number, if you guess it can you just take whatever is in the safe? Sure. No concept of theft there...

Yeah dude, and you are just an electrical impulse of a brain in a vat, gtfo of here.

They do transfer and youre being a dolt. Your rhetorical own isn't one at all and you look like a retard rn to everyone but yourself.

I understand the need for revenge, but death penalty would destroy any chance of the hacker returning any funds

Except coldcard was known not to pay bug bounties. There were multiple instances where vulnerabilities were disclosed and no bounty was paid. A team of researchers received cold cards and coffee mugs for their disclosure 😂

I became aware of this later lol I didn't know the whole lore but every time a company behaves like this, this is what happens, in crypto this is what thorchain did too. always need to be aware of how companies treat security researchers before buying their products

Yeah, I was aware there was some drama, but also only leaned about the full extent in hindsight. Valuable lesson learned today. Luckily I wasn't the one having to pay the price for it.