with all due respect to HS, he's a neo-luddite boomer and very much now part of the Dawah Inc cult. nothing was ever going to materialize of a relationship or colaboration. as for the SAIF reading list, it doesn't even matter the intent of it. my point is it WILL be used for such purposes and that should be explored further. also, very good to read them since core has gone to the effort of providing the list. if you're not drinking from the cup how do you know the flavor?