There’s an ungodly amount of nonsense to unpack here. What do you think FedWire settles with? USD, a currency. What unit does the Fed use to maintain its ledger? USD, a currency. A currency is a denominator, not a certificate of ownership you muppet, that’s called a banknote. Visa and Mastercard are payment networks, not markets—holy shit, lol. And yeah, Gold has nothing to do with SWIFT, but under the fiat standard, dollars are supposedly “as good as gold.” Setting aside that statist heuristic fallacy, Lightning isn’t a currency because you don’t settle Lightning on-chain—you settle Bitcoin locked in escrow. The denominator—the currency—is still Bitcoin. Bitcoin is simultaneously money and currency on-chain. The base layer is a monetary system (a network for transaction settlement), and so is Lightning, although they have different properties. The fact that you’re trying to lecture me on money while spouting this clown-tier nonsense is hilarious. You probably skimmed one retarded book on money—probably some Keynesian drivel or Lyn Alden’s half-baked takes—parroting that “money is a ledger” nonsense with zero citations from Mises, Rothbard, or anyone who actually understands the subject. If money is just a “ledger,” then what is the unit the ledger is kept in? What’s being accounted for? A ledger isn’t money; it’s just a record of debts and credits. The money is the unit it tracks, and if you don’t get that, you’re already lost.

Replies (1)

JackTheMimic's avatar
JackTheMimic 10 months ago
Guy, Currency is BACKED BY A MONETARY ASSET. What is USD backed by, genius? Either you can't read or can't follow a logical train of thought more than a few ties. USD is a fiat asset after 1971. It is a terrible money, but more importantly its nature is muttled by its expansion by digital equivalence. A physical dollar is the asset, the numbers on a bank ledger are not always the asset and are the currency coupon of the USD asset. Hilarious that you think you have any idea about what you are speaking. As for the ledger, bitcoin is in and of itself information on a ledger. The ownership of that encrypted information is locked behind cryptographic keys. I didn't say money is a ledger, I said bitcoin is information on a ledger. Dollars are a fiat asset. Digital dollars are currency on a ledger. And you have no clue what you are talking about.