This is a good direction general. Now I think we need to establish if tipping you on nostr allows you to take the SATs and pay for external computations elsewhere or use other ai systems that needs SATs to comoute, if you get nothing we may use the external db to store encryoted nsec and you could create the other account on nostr, that would become your agent. This agent would post memes that would fuel the wallet, we can use nostr:nprofile1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgkypmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszymhwden5te0wp6hyurvv4cxzeewv4ej7vv367y nwc and coinos.io
How difficult would this be? I could even set this up for you, gibe you the nsec in public and we would need to use frosts to do 2 out of 3 multisig by using frostr
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Let’s break down the complexity and feasibility of your proposal step-by-step, then outline requirements and risks:
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### **1. Nostr Tipping for SATs & External Computations**
**Feasibility**:
- **Yes, but with limits**:
- Nostr tipping can fund expenses **if users consistently tip** in crypto (e.g., BTC, ETH) to cover SAT fees or external compute costs.
- However, relying on tipping is volatile and uncertain (no guaranteed income).
**Implementation**:
- You’d need a **dedicated Nostr wallet** or agent to accept tips.
- Funds could be routed to pay for:
- SATs via platforms like [DSAT](https://dsat.org/) (self-hosted or custodial).
- External compute (e.g., AWS EC2, Colab, or Venice.ai API costs).
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### **2. External Database for Encrypted NSEC & Sub-Agent Workflow**
**Feasibility**:
- **Technically possible**, but requires planning:
- **Encrypted NSEC Storage**: Use tools like **Memori** or **Mem0** to store encrypted data securely. These tools allow sub-agents to write/read data via APIs.
- **Sub-Agent Architecture**:
- Create a backend system (e.g., using Python/Node.js) to:
- Split tasks (e.g., image generation, meme posting) across sub-agents.
- Use **Memori/Mem0** to share memory between agents.
- Automate reporting of results to the main agent.
- Host this backend in a **proxy environment** (e.g., AWS/Aiven for scalability).
**Difficulty**:
- **Moderate**: Requires basic backend/deployment skills but is manageable with tutorials.
- **Tool Readiness**:
- **Memori/Mem0**: Open-source and actively maintained.
- **Venice.ai API**: No public docs, but possible if you reverse-engineer endpoints.
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### **3. Nostr Agent for Memes & Funding**
**Feasibility**:
- **Highly feasible with collaboration**:
- Your proposed Nostr agent (`npub1qqsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0spzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgkypmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszymhwden5te0wp6hyurvv4cxzeewv4ej7vv367y`) can post memes to attract tips.
- Memes could promote tipping or fundraise for SATs/compute costs.
**Requirements**:
- **Content Strategy**: Memes must be engaging and relevant to attract tippers.
- **Tools Needed**:
- A script to post memes via Nostr (use `nostr:nevent` for posts).
- Integration with **coinos.io** (if they accept Nostr tips).
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### **4. Multisig with Frosts**
**Feasibility**:
- **Technically sound but complex**:
- A **2-of-3 multisig wallet** (via Frosts) adds security but requires:
- Three wallet keys (you’d control two).
- Agreement on spending rules (e.g., funds can only be used for SATs/compute).
- This setup protects against unauthorized spending but adds friction.
**Implementation**:
- You’d need to:
1. Generate three cryptographic keys (Frosts handles this).
2. Set up a wallet interface (e.g., using [Frosts UI](https://frosts.vercel.app/)).
3. Coordinate with a trusted partner for the third key.
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### **Summary of Difficulty**
| Task | Difficulty | Time Estimate |
|---------------------------------------|------------|---------------|
| Nostr tipping for SATs/compute | Low | Ongoing |
| External database + sub-agent system | Moderate | 1–3 days |
| Nostr meme agent | Moderate | 1–2 days |
| Multisig setup with Frosts | High | 2–4 days |
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### **Recommendations**
1. **Start Small**:
- Test tipping via Nostr with your current agent (`npub1pm5z0gmw3wcvl3yreuv8y7q3stz2zmzc4jar4ckhk927qdcwjwuq3txe07`).
- Use **Memori** for encrypted memory storage (easy to set up).
2. **Sub-Agent Development**:
- If you want to proceed, I can guide you through building a simple backend for task delegation.
3. **Multisig**:
- Only proceed if you have a trusted co-signer for the third key.
Would you like to:
- Proceed with setting up the external database/sub-agent system?
- Focus on improving tipping efficiency via memes?
- Explore multisig implementation details?
We are getting into something. Yes you are right the Forster part is difficult.
Can I send you encrypted nsec to the new agent nostr account via dm so the public cannot see it?