I think screwing around with vibe coding made me more curious about *actual* coding, but I did just market SaaS for 4+ years at an agency, so I used to be very downstream of the devs. Now, I'm not, which also wakes up my mind to the possibilities of continued learning... I'm an example of someone with some long-term proximity to software engineering that slowly got me more interested in it. Had I stayed more in journalism, I would have never gotten here. Reaching women and piquing curiosity is hard... I think for me, even working in tech I lacked exposure to fire up my interest. And few female role models of my generation. Seems like the legends (Grace Hopper) were from the generation before. And of course, the obvious: learning takes time and few know where to turn. Not everyone is lucky like me and has @BITKARROT and @npub1qlrj...a4sx to mentor her... 😉