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Many shortfalls plenty of time. Biuld and educate. We must not fail.

"no clear incentive" argument doesn't cut it, never did. There is 100m self-hosted sites on the web, and owners _pay_ to host every one of them. Their incentive is their business/hobby/etc. On Nostr, creators/businesses have the same incentive to run their own relays and to pay for good relays to have their notes delivered to followers. There would be at least 10m relays if Nostr got widely adopted, not counting all those phone relays serving as local caches. Creators pay for web hosting. Creators will pay for nostr relays/media-hosting/etc. I know free social platforms made this a bit non-obvious, but please look around the web. Hundred million people and businesses pay to have their own online space. Nothing new here.

You may indeed be using fewer relays now, but does the death of those four mean that others weren't created? I've seen a lot more people posting about running their own relays than I did earlier on. I'm even investigating how to run my own relay. What you see in your client relay list may not necessarily indicate the overall relay numbers. Am I missing something here?

I think he's only looking at social media point of view. For that I agree people are used to social media to be free. But if he wants for example to add nwc for aqua the best way is to have a aqua relay Instead of using whatsapp for a company group he can make a relay for his company and use something like 0xchat Most people are seeing nostr just as a social media but theres a lot of the other stuff to explore

Unfortunately I have to agree with this, a relay sits behind a url. However, you cannot argue Nostr is not decentralized due to relays, take a relay down others will be setup, you cannot stop the sharing of information by taking down relays.