Truth, but ACLs mean signing up for a list on multiple other peoples relays. Would prefer if it were in the protocol. As it stands I'd much rather the relay just issued a 1984 on the note and let clients decide what to do about it.
Actually deleting spammy notes silently is the real creepy 1984 behavior. I get it that its sometimes required by law for certain content (criticising the King for siamstr), but that's why more relays need to be on Tor...
Login to reply
Replies (4)
are you in the business of making investigations? then you have a budget
if it's a paid relay and the client asks for delete, then you gotta stop sending it out
but that doesn't mean that you can't charge for an extra service to access that data
as a relay operator, i have no obligation to send you anything unless i'm paid to do it and if you don't pay me extra why should i rat on my customers?
deleting spammy notes is necessary, because storage space is limited, and garbage is infinite
you just didn't think about how much volume it may entail, maybe?
I have an alpha draft of a tool that would allow clients to train their own custom filters. It works pretty well, but its a real bitch trying to get enough data. Data being the text of spammy notes.
How much extra storage space can spammy text content really take up on a relay? If you're hosting images, sure, nuke those, but keeping suspect notes up for a couple of weeks would be very helpful.
also, "would prefer it was in the protocol" is requiring the protocol to not just be a relay protocol but also a consensus
no
just had this conversation with regard to semisol's idea about cursors being jammed into REQ/EOSE envelopes
no, this is a separate protocol, like i said to @semisol - make a new query type that only returns event IDs, problem solved, no state to save, far less data cost, and the client is free to paginate it as they wish
Well, 1984s ARE in the protocol and they do exactly what I need already. Or would, if relay operators could leave the suspect notes on Death Row for a while.
Otherwise, 100% agree