The broad crypto industry rallied hard soon after the White House threatened to veto the bill that would let banks custody digital assets. And now it’s making a big difference, with Congress voting strongly for it, the White House pulling their veto threat, etc. While it’s right to pass that bill and let banks custody them if they want, it’s sad to see that the crypto industry response to that was like 100x bigger than the response to all of the anti-privacy stuff that has been happening. The desire of people in the industry for banks to help pump their bags is way bigger than their desire to pave a way for freedom tech in general. Much love to all those building and supporting real freedom tech.

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Hypnagog 1 year ago
Yep very true. Privacy is something you only miss once you've lost it and its too late
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Joker 1 year ago
That’s exactly why I dug through all my saved information on privacy (2) days ago and started updating my blog on the latest for Bitcoin privacy-related stuff. We’re squandering a big opportunity to take advantage of pushing the privacy narrative back to the front burner.😎
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McAnderson 1 year ago
The broad crypto industry rallied hard soon after the White House threatened to veto the bill that would let banks custody digital assets. And now it’s making a big difference, with Congress voting strongly for it, the White House pulling their veto threat, etc. While it’s right to pass that bill and let banks custody them if they want, it’s sad to see that the crypto industry response to that was like 100x bigger than the response to all of the anti-privacy stuff that has been happening. The desire of people in the industry for banks to help pump their bags is way bigger than their desire to pave a way for freedom tech in general. Much love to all those building and supporting real freedom tech.
The monetary incentives are definitely there. But also, it’s much more straight forward to voice your opinion on a law (ie an idea) than it is to support/defend a person who may or may not have committed a crime according to the law.
We have privacy programmed ready to go for Bitcoin. Check Litecoin's code, look for mimblewimble. Just waiting for the politics, and laws.
We may be losing the plot. There are 2 discernible camps: Privacy + Permissionless network on one side, and NGU on the other. The latter helps make the asset more attractive to institutions, but also is a soft capture because everyone gets addicted to NGU and wants the political winds to help NGU, even if the trade off is that we have to trust them and ask for their permission. Worries me a lot.
The Cypherpunks had a strong ethos around the idea that asking the government for privacy protection was a waste of time. I wonder if that was actually true. Perhaps it was a mistake. In the United States, there might be a few people in leadership who understand history well enough to know that the "free United States" they claim to fight for cannot exist going forward without privacy, particularly cryptography and online privacy.
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Legion XXI 1 year ago
Crypto has always been piggybacking on Bitcoin’s success and tech
"The desire of people in the industry for banks to help pump their bags is way bigger than their desire to pave a way for freedom tech in general." Not everyone in this space wants to make the world a better place. Some just want to make their lives better tomorrow and don't care about their future or even other people. Me, I'm in it for the tech. In it for the financial revolution. In it for the freedom. View quoted note →
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Kendy 1 year ago
Most people are conditioned that stacking fiat aggressively and NGU is more important than anything else. If only they understood that poor privacy and weak property rights can render all those gains useless.
A great example of why incentives matter. "Fix the incentives. Fix the world."
Lyn Alden's avatar Lyn Alden
The broad crypto industry rallied hard soon after the White House threatened to veto the bill that would let banks custody digital assets. And now it’s making a big difference, with Congress voting strongly for it, the White House pulling their veto threat, etc. While it’s right to pass that bill and let banks custody them if they want, it’s sad to see that the crypto industry response to that was like 100x bigger than the response to all of the anti-privacy stuff that has been happening. The desire of people in the industry for banks to help pump their bags is way bigger than their desire to pave a way for freedom tech in general. Much love to all those building and supporting real freedom tech.
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graffiti 1 year ago
The markets have never rallied around the tech advancements either.
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superkruger 1 year ago
Most pro-freedom people have no clue what it takes to enforce personal freedom. Ask any American with a gun.
The discourse of freedom and privacy only rises while the pockets are empty. Then there is no more space when the suitcases are full.
Bitcoin Custody for common person is impossibly hard .. if banks participate in this eco system , its actually decentralisation of custodians .. I am not limited to say coinbase or cash app now .. As for privacy , there are enough privacy tools for those who seek it . Bitcoin is public ledger by design .. Both are anyway not linked ..
I often worry that the general masses won't care about privacy until it's too late. Any time I talk about it with friends and family, I get responses along the line of sarcasm or the occasional "we don't have to worry about that here"
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Sab 1 year ago
Well aren’t you and @Michael Saylor part of the people in the industry to help pump their bags ?
Acute observation about imbalanced priorities in this industry
Lyn Alden's avatar Lyn Alden
The broad crypto industry rallied hard soon after the White House threatened to veto the bill that would let banks custody digital assets. And now it’s making a big difference, with Congress voting strongly for it, the White House pulling their veto threat, etc. While it’s right to pass that bill and let banks custody them if they want, it’s sad to see that the crypto industry response to that was like 100x bigger than the response to all of the anti-privacy stuff that has been happening. The desire of people in the industry for banks to help pump their bags is way bigger than their desire to pave a way for freedom tech in general. Much love to all those building and supporting real freedom tech.
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Also if it pumped because of US politics, it's yet another example that US have still way too much influence on Bitcoin (and crypto) as well as the whole finance in the world. Hopefully moving to the Bitcoin standard will reduce this influence and spread it out to other regions and populations.
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Sab 1 year ago
#Bitcoin is already captured by the military/corporate/industrial complex of USA.
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Sab 1 year ago
Maybe i should say the price of #Bitcoin not #Bitcoin itself
Lyn Alden's avatar Lyn Alden
The broad crypto industry rallied hard soon after the White House threatened to veto the bill that would let banks custody digital assets. And now it’s making a big difference, with Congress voting strongly for it, the White House pulling their veto threat, etc. While it’s right to pass that bill and let banks custody them if they want, it’s sad to see that the crypto industry response to that was like 100x bigger than the response to all of the anti-privacy stuff that has been happening. The desire of people in the industry for banks to help pump their bags is way bigger than their desire to pave a way for freedom tech in general. Much love to all those building and supporting real freedom tech.
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scl 1 year ago
Let be honest with ourselves. 98% of people don’t give a shit about privacy, until they need it. Its all about number go up
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BitcoinStu 1 year ago
yeah? how so? They don't seem to be able to control what software I run on my node so I'm not sure what makes you think that.
It takes a gross violation of privacy for these individuals to care. What if someone posted all the financial transactions of all the bank ceo’s, media ceos, and politicians? How big of a reaction would it be?
Let me get this straight. . . . You feel it's "just" and "right" for banks to be able to custody an asset they've been spending more than a decade mocking, ridiculing, harnessing, and coercing the shit out of with non stop FUD? Literally, financial parasites who are part of a squadron in cahoots with illegitimate governments around the world hellbent on keeping their knees on the back of our necks?
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Lyn Alden's avatar Lyn Alden
The broad crypto industry rallied hard soon after the White House threatened to veto the bill that would let banks custody digital assets. And now it’s making a big difference, with Congress voting strongly for it, the White House pulling their veto threat, etc. While it’s right to pass that bill and let banks custody them if they want, it’s sad to see that the crypto industry response to that was like 100x bigger than the response to all of the anti-privacy stuff that has been happening. The desire of people in the industry for banks to help pump their bags is way bigger than their desire to pave a way for freedom tech in general. Much love to all those building and supporting real freedom tech.
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Greed over freedom 🙃
Lyn Alden's avatar Lyn Alden
The broad crypto industry rallied hard soon after the White House threatened to veto the bill that would let banks custody digital assets. And now it’s making a big difference, with Congress voting strongly for it, the White House pulling their veto threat, etc. While it’s right to pass that bill and let banks custody them if they want, it’s sad to see that the crypto industry response to that was like 100x bigger than the response to all of the anti-privacy stuff that has been happening. The desire of people in the industry for banks to help pump their bags is way bigger than their desire to pave a way for freedom tech in general. Much love to all those building and supporting real freedom tech.
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Tom 1 year ago
I share in this sadness. People are still stuck in the old world counting their pieces of fiat paper. Meanwhile in the new world being able to use Bitcoin privately is becoming harder—and worse still, it is not because of technological limitations but because the US government has taken to the warpath to make Bitcoin privacy illegal.
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Rand 1 year ago
most awareness I've seen in years is finally here,,,,,,keep building/sharing/LFG is the rallycry!
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Rand 1 year ago
weights & measures
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Lyn Alden 1 year ago
14 years ago today, a guy ordered 2 pizza's, and paid for them with 10,000 #Bitcoin   I wonder how he's feeling today At some point, people will realise that they have more to fear by not embracing #Bitcoin     than by embracing it. You can easily 100x your portfolio this period with the passive arbitrage signals following the recent bull run. If you’re a fan of #bitcoin and you haven't join the rebelcapitalist (RCL) yet then I don’t even know what you’re doing here! Vip group:
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PunkDunk 1 year ago
It would be good for you to talk on NOSTR and why it's the future for decentralized Social Media.
the ETFs aren't great IMO but Banks I have no problem with. I use custodial lightning at times and I have my own node and own wallet too. The market should decide what the demand is and not the regulators. WGMI either way IMO.
Yes and you can choose to use them, a smaller or less official lighting provider, uncle Jim, or your own node if you have the funding to do so. It's a free market. Let the people decide.