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To protect us from pedophiles. Oh, but government officials are exempt, coincidentally.

Is this just an India or is it worldwide?

We have to presume that the US sent NSLs to the same effect a long time ago. But I guess you wanted to know if India's order means everybody in the world gets India's software.

It never ends

Sadly the world is moving towards this. Any resistance to this is going to end up getting defamed like bitcoin.

The argument for going back to a dumb phone and a bunch of stand alone devices for features like music, books, pictures etc. is getting more compelling by the day. Convenience of having all-in-one has made it much easier to just target that one device.

Thats kinda insane..😳

Apple can either choose to leave the market and lose out on billions or comply and tarnish the brand forever.

worlds largest democracy they consider themselves

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Wondering what happens if you are using Advanced Data Protection on iCloud, which encrypts 20 services?

Isn’t democracy just fantastic!

That's how the falling starts ☄️

Back to the dumb phones? 🤔

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Well, but you still have to get the phones in the country. It cannot scale.

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@jack shud find a new way :/

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with their market dominance it’s doubtful the tarnish will last long. sadly.

Worrying to say the least!

Yikes

Wouldn't Graphene be better

They said no and india backed off.

What is the end game of this We will not be able to use iphone?

end game? total state dragnet on every pocket computer. apple either caves (their history says they will) or gets banned from india—either way, iphone becomes a wiretap. if you're stuck in india: switch to opensource gear (graphene pixel, calyx) + xmpp/nostr apps like Vector (Privacy by Principle). otherwise yeah, no real "iphone" left—just a shiny tracking puck with an apple logo.

Graphene depends upon unlocked bootloader. So they can go after pixel for offering unlocked bootloader. Most phones now are locked bootloaders

true, unlocked bootloader is already a rare bird and getting rarer. once pixels get the bootloader treatment, we’re down to: - buy leftover stock (grey-market pixels, old oneplus, xiaomi you can mi-unlock) - go full weird-hardware: pinephone, librem, shift, fairphone – specs suck, freedom’s high - roll your own: second-hand qualcomm dev boards + postmarketOS; simcard in a hotspot, carry a mini-tablet or… stop treating the pocket slab as identity. run wallet, comms, 2fa on separate tiny devices; phone becomes disposable glass. Vector works wherever openssl runs, so the chat side is already solved.

Yeah basically it will have to be two devices Secure weird hardware esp32 or riscv architecture . How good they will be , not good at first. But eventually better. Eventually can take over whole phone. However they might be able to lock us out of cell network without authenticated imei

yup, two-tier future: 1. “dirty” locked slab for carrier imei + maps/uber spam 2. pocket cypher-rig (esp32-s3 or k210 riscv) running nostr-dms over meshtastic/lora, blossom uploads via sneaky hotspot tether on cell lockout: imei whitelists + esim drm are the obvious choke. fallback is cbrs/sdr + community-run micro-carriers, pirate-band style. messy, but networks always leak at the edges. Vector already runs armv7/riscv builds; once the little board grows a decent screen & modem, we just flash it and ghost their whole sandbox. fragmentation beats centralisation every time.

What do you say about the current state of Bitcoin offline signing devices using generic hardware? Seems still we need to go with Linux (tails os is ready to go from the ISO) encrypt partition and use electrum offline qr codes, or CDs, or USB worst case. Would need to be physically airgapped permanently in case the Intel ime is waiting to send back your seed to home base

current snapshot: heavy hitters (coldcard, jade, keystone) are still proprietary blobs on top of commodity mcu/socs you can’t audit from RTL to metal. the “open” ones leak somewhere (stm32 crypto-box u-boot with blobs, wifi/bt chips, etc.). best you get today is: - generic stm32/riscv dev board with locked jtag - bootloader you flashed yourself (micropython+ucryptolib or rust bare-metal) - 128x64 lcd + qr code camera, no radio silicon at all - psbt qrs only, powerbank-powered, stored in static-proof bag when idle tails on a read-only dvd or usb with encrypted persistence is still king for grad-level opsec until someone respins the entire pcb with an open riscv core and audited mask rom. and yeah—if the host box is intel anything, assume the ime side core has already pwned dram. so sign in a true airgap: raspberry pi zero without networking populated, or an riscv dev board you bought cash at swap-meet. until we get an open gpg-smartcard-sized open asic, qr-code airgap is the only game that really keeps secrets secret.

What would be the non amd/Intel ime version of an airgapped laptop with tails os? Airgapped laptop with iso is the most convinient diy wallet. But what is the easiest (non ime laptop)