> It's not an on chain privacy thing. I agree completely. However, it has been aggressively marketed as such by its creators. The second link saying it is a privacy tool is the creator’s website. The third is the world’s largest exchange, directing telling people that it solves Bitcoin’s privacy problems. The problem with this entire ecosystem is that defending Core’s ossification has become a fractal of scams and fraud. Because outside of Monero, most every other cryptocurrency is heavily correlated to Bitcoin. So you have to continue convincing people that Bitcoin’s actual utility as future money is right around the corner. And the minimum viability utility for money includes privacy, so you have to absolutely lie to people’s faces about Bitcoin’s privacy capabilities constantly. So you get instances like the guy upthread saying absolutely retarded shit like “Lightning is private!” No, the onion routing of LN is retardedly unreliable and nobody is using BOLT12. It is not private at all. And you get something like SP coming around, which similarly only allows an extremely sophisticated person to construct privacy in Bitcoin, if they use coin control on every single transactions to never combine UTXOs and atomic swap to a different Monero subaddress afterwards. But nobody is ever going to use it like that (and some UTXOs would eventually have too little value to pay the necessary on-chain fee for the larger atomic swap transaction anyways). So you get people who don’t actually have a real urgent need for privacy and will never see immediate harsh consequences for the failure of not having it repeating shit that they don’t have the capacity to understand the falsehood of told to them by scam operations pushed by whales who want to insulate Bitcoin from its failures by absolutely lying to people in a completely fraudulent manner.

Agree, I actually didn't know it was being pushed as a privacy thing, I never viewed it that way. IMHO it's tradeoffs all the way down and there are a lot of options to improve privacy but you have to understand what you're doing and leaking information is extremely easy. Monero has tradeoffs too, but I try not to venture too deep into these conversations because I honestly don't know enough about how to guarantee privacy from end to end. I mostly just try to get people off the KYC exchanges and start accumulating a no-KYC stack P2P. Accumulate via lightning or cashu and swap to on chain once you have a large enough UTXO. Bitcoin meetups are a great place to build a trusted community for P2P liquidity and to arrange local swaps.