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Partially true. Partially wrong.

I’m open to discussing. Can you elaborate?

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Immigrants which ones? Legal immigrants are mostly the backbone of any country’s wealth. Cheap labor is essential. On the other hand illegal immigrants are the exact opposite of aboves narrative. They are massively discrediting their fellow countrymen who perform honest and hard work. Illegal immigrants destabilize any economy. I don’t want millions of illegals who spit on my culture, rape our women and claim social benefits as most of them don’t work at all. Poor people which ones? I know honest, poor people who cannot work or are simply poor due to external factors. But I also blame poor people who don’t have the intention to work and suck the blood out of the welfare system.

What are the numbers that point towards illegal immigrants “massively discrediting…spit on culture, rape women, claim social benefits”. Those numbers are necessary as well as the salary benefits of all politicians, market subsidies, corporate subsidies, governmental contracts, before we start singling out one group. Most people lack understanding of socio economics and how it affects generations, as well as regions. The lack of understanding is not always willful but in the day information with internet, it’s becoming “head in the sand” to ignore the effects of socio economics.

You need zero statistics if you look at the current situation with common sense in major cities the UK, France and Germany in regards to public safety and budget for the welfare state. Of course it heavily depends on your political views. If you pray daily to Karl Marx’ DAS Kapital and think Fidel Castro was a genius this discussion ends here.

https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/state-totals Here is good start on JUST state subsidies for companies.

Fortunately for me I have no religious ties to any doctrine or theory. So yes, I like numbers, data, statistics, and information. I do not rely on “gut” feelings or what politicians tell me. If you don’t use actual data, and have not done any reading or research…discussion ends here.

Dude, take a walk through Paris or Berlin. If you have commons sense and if you can think for yourself, you get the point. Also, I guess the situation in Germany is very different from the US as you come up with statistics from the US. We are looking at a very complex, multi layer issue were we could discuss for hours.

I do not doubt the complexity nor have I down played it. It is very dynamic issue with very real consequences. But blaming one group of people WITHOUT desiring to endeavor to discover the cause is a “talking point” knee jerk reaction. Where are the displaced coming from? Why are they leaving there? What are their intentions? Do they desire to return if their home country was returned to “normal”? I think comprehensive immigration policies are necessary. I love history and what it tells us on migration and immigration. Blaming immigrants and poor people who don’t work…not logical or reasonable for any educated person.

Exactly. 100%. Nothing to add here. The problem is that you cannot discuss this simple rule with socialists. They cannot grasp the concept of self-responsibility.

Half of India would still turn up even if USA had no welfare programs though.

I’m not socialist. I thought we were done from your last comment but you keep talking.

Biggest recipient of welfare in America is Corporations, Banks, and politicians.

And that would be a good thing!

whats a white man got to do to get an ethnostate around here?!