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I just don't buy the silence of the main character. Which is like... The whole thing about the movie🤷🏽 I understand he's a quiet strong type, but like that first date would've never worked saying literally 2 words during irl🤷🏽 Just pulls me out of it quick. Like that scene in pulp fiction with they talk about awkward vs comfortable silence? You don't have to talk when you're comfortable with each other... BUT THEY MET LIKE 5 MINS AGO But again I get that, that's just me 🤷🏽 I can see why it's good. I just don't buy it.
I get where you're coming from. But, I've been on dates with women who are as equally quiet as me. There is a distinct type of chemistry that comes from people who share that quality. A rare type of comfort.
Yeah be l but even the most hardboiled noir string silent types had dialogue 🤷🏽 and even more so they had inner monologues so we knew how they felt about the world🤷🏽 I feel like Drive was a movie made because of the trope of Ryan Gosling 🤷🏽 Ryan Gosling himself even said for a long time up until they movie he felt like his roles were often "a robot shell of a man experiencing feelings through others reactions to him" and I think Nicholas Wendigo Refn was like... Actually.... Yeah.... Let's make you do nothing a whole movie and see if people sit through it.
Mmmmmm Ok I'll give you that one. But I still think any woman in close proximity to him irl would be attracted for the first hour or so until the date went like that. Then they would lose that number quick in fear he was done perv, it serial killer, or what have you. Pretty damn fast your mind starts running why is he like this, what is he thinking. I just can't see it. I will suspend my disbelief to extend measures. I love scifi and fantasy and all sorts. But I can't see a guy who doesn't communicate getting anywhere in life realistically with the amount that he was in that film. Even obvious creeps like Dahmer has to say things to lure people back to his place🤷🏽
True. But like. Small things. Human interpersonal relationship things. If he's going to be silent. It's he grabbing her hand to reassure her? Hugging her? Body language? Nah he's a robot except for in the car.
No no I totally get that. I just would/have already argued that you still have to have some base level which I feel he didn't. And if you're saying 2 string silent types fit together to have comfortable silence I would also argue Irene is in NO WAY a strong silent type. Her whole dynamic was begging without saying it aloud. She was wanton. She would have craved for him to even say her name once more.
Yeah but. Like. I dunno you would think alone he would open up. Or to have an actual character arc it would be something like she got him too open up and to surreal. She's the only one that could or something🤷🏽
You're right. I change my mind completely because I'm this angle he looks kind of like he's smiling even though thats most likely eisenstein's theory of montage juxtaposition at work🤷🏽
He's very awkward when he interacts with other characters. At least, when it comes to emotional situations. But when it comes to practical matters, like that scene when he kills those two hitmen in the motel, he's very focused and doesn't seem to be bothered, at all.
I like gosling. I just don't like when directors use him as eye candy with no substance 🤷🏽 I'd actually counter what you said with saying I just hate Drive🤷🏽 I don't think there's an actual story there. Or maybe if they tooled with his character it would work for me. But in a few movies gosling could be replaced with a plank of wood and it wouldn't change anything🤷🏽
I mean. It's not Oscar worthy. But there's actual characters with arcs and events that flow in a real world. Which again I think it's miles away from Drive 🤷🏽🤣
The problem i’m having is i can’t think of a specific example, all that comes to mjnd is requiem for a dream, which is partially romanticized But i am quite certain some movies are all about fucked up af relationships
Okay, but not all relationships are like that. Every couple fights. And Requiem for a Dream! 👀 That movie was about the effects that drug addiction has on relationships, not relationships in general.