I was listening to @RABBIT HOLE RECAP last night and was excited to hear the start of the show talking about Bitcoin gaming. There are parts I fully agreed with and parts that I'd love to debate. The full show isn't about gaming but here's a clip on the conversation around this post: (Timestamp 3:03 to 4:30 of The Coinbase Rugs Continue in case my Fountain clip won't load for you.) @ODELL mentions early on that Fortnite with sats has always been a dream of his and I couldn't agree more. I think gaming has the potential to make Bitcoin way more mainstream while offering gaming experiences that just can't happen in a fiat world. When done right I even think it's enough to make @Marty Bent find the time to game! 🤣 Matt goes on to say that Epic Games will never do it because it has to be a challenger to make the move. I think this was a bit hyperbolic because once Bitcoin gaming becomes the standard, Epic will have to do it to keep up with the Joneses. On the other hand I completely understand his point that they may be one of the last to move. We've already seen smaller studios, like 1047, adopt Bitcoin as a means of bringing users back in when they teamed with @npub1earn...ja5j back in 2023 to have Bitcoin added to Splitgate. ( ) I saw first hand how this invigorated a community around that game for players that had never played it in it's first 4 years of being on the market. Then came the part that really inspired me to write this post. I've had chatgpt reword the following two paragraphs given my critical view of the project. Matt mentions that he helped convince Satoshi Games to launch Lightnite with Bitcoin and that it was a massive development sinkhole. I was deeply invested in SG's vision, purchasing an early copy of Lightnite, their original Liquid-based NFTs and even created web properties to promote their game because I strongly supported their mission. Unfortunately, they eventually shifted their focus and moved entirely to Solana. In my opinion, the move to Solana was not because Bitcoin itself created insurmountable development hurdles, but rather due to business decisions that favored an easier issuance of tokens. As someone who passionately supported their Bitcoin-centric mission, I was disappointed and publicly expressed my frustrations, leading to being blocked by their team on Twitter. @ORANGEMART is a complete antithesis to the concept of Bitcoin in gaming being tough to develop. They launched a modded server on Rust years ago and have continued to build and enhance the experience. Supported by the community through @Geyser ( ), they’ve consistently delivered sats directly into players' hands simply for participating. Remarkably, they initiated this with virtually zero traditional development. Instead, they creatively repurposed existing in-game assets to represent Bitcoin and utilized @lightsats vouchers dispensed from in-game vending machines. This innovative setup provided a Bitcoin earning experience without any significant development overhead. Their vision and dedication directly inspired me to invest thousands of hours into Rust. Inspired by Orange’s mission, I've since developed multiple plugins for Rust, including Orangemart.cs. This plugin allows any Rust server to integrate seamlessly with an LNBits server, enabling players to easily move sats in and out of the game via Discord-sent lightning invoices or payouts with nothing more needed than a lightning address. Creating this plugin was far from a development sinkhole, it was essentially "vibe-coded," before that was even a term. Leveraging prompts fed into chatgpt, I was able to learn enough about Rust’s modding framework to integrate Bitcoin directly into the game. I completed the first working version with just a few weeks of my spare time, clearly disproving the notion of Bitcoin gaming as inherently difficult or resource-intensive to develop. (I'm certainly no real game developer!) I've since launched my own Rust server in collaboration with Orange to offer a unique take on the Rust experience. I've incorporated virtual Bitcoin mining that let's players use in-game Bitaxes to "hash" and turn those hashes in for rewards similar to a FPPS mining pool. This then determines the rewards they can claim at the end of the wipe based on the number of shares they turn in. I've found managing a Rust server more work than integrating Bitcoin into the game. TL:DR - Bitcoin is likely the future of gaming. LLMs will continue to reduce hurdles for development and market forces will eventually push teams to focus on the hardest money as players demand real rewards for their time and effort. This will make cash grabs around issuing your own currency less valuable and further entrench Bitcoin into gaming.

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Always excited for what the ZBD team is building and linking together in the space! I should have noted more about a later reference in the pod where Matt gives ZBD a shout-out for being the best way to build Bitcoin into gaming. I was just too fired up about Lightnite and the comment in regards to them that I didn't give that side enough focus. I have a goal of building ZBD backend support to go along with the LNBits funding option in a future update as well for my Rust plugin. It should make it way easier for non-technical admins to bring Bitcoin into their Rust servers without needing their own Bitcoin infrastructure!
I was reading this and knew you’d be somewhere nearby and lo and behold the first comment! 😂
i was also very bummed by the switch to solana. i’m not a gamer but bought the early copies and bought stupid in game nfts and felt betrayed when they switched. wouldn’t have supported any of that if that was announced as the plan.
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Bounty 8 months ago
I’m making a bitcoin shooter right now and would love to get you on the test flight (iOS only for now). Not in the near term (games only get 1 first impression so I’m really trying to make sure it doesn’t suck) but the basic engine, multiplayer, animations, characters etc. are all in place 🚀
That's freaking awesome! Unfortunately I don't own any Apple devices but when/if you have an Android version I'm definitely down to give it a run and share my thoughts. All the best while getting it ready though!
Ok well for this gaming future to happen first we must realize that we can in fact do better than Lightning. Lightning is jank when it comes to large scale, that is why big companies are not adopting Bitcoin payments. If you truly want a gaming future, Bitcoiners need to realize the existence of Lightning's successor, the Zenon Network and evolve. Zenon Network can take us there with infinite scalability and zApps but we can't do it alone. It's time to awaken the beast friends. There is a reason those devs moved to Solana, ZNN will make Bitcoin more capable than even that.
Ok debate me then, explain why big companies like Epic would want to adopt Lightning with it's liquidity and routing issues vs just sticking with Fiat?
The simple answer is because fiat is dying. The deeper answer is that this entire statement is misleading. While Lightning does have routing and liquidity mechanics under the hood, those aren't issues a company like Epic would ever have to deal with directly. Epic would likely use a payment provider, like @npub1earn...ja5j that I mentioned above with Splitgate, that abstracts all that away. And to say fiat has 'no such problems' ignores the real world issues with fraud, chargebacks, fees and settlement delays that fiat rails still deal with on the daily. So the comparison doesn’t hold. Also, the part I was saying was wrong wasn’t about fiat vs. Lightning. It was your blanket claim that Lightning is 'jank' and can’t scale. That’s just not grounded in reality. Lightning is already handling microtransactions in live gaming environments today. Even my Rust server, running with just a handful of open channels, has no issue routing sats instantly and reliably. Lightning payments at scale isn’t theoretical, it’s happening right now, in the wild. As for Zenon, calling it a 'Lightning successor' is pure shitcoin marketing. It’s a speculative project with no real adoption, no meaningful developer ecosystem and no demonstrated ability to scale in production plus it includes the need for a shitcoin. Meanwhile, Lightning has global reach, developer momentum, enterprise interest and actual users. Don’t let a buzzword filled whitepaper distract from a protocol that’s already working. Hype doesn't scale, working code does.
Uhm that's the main problem with Lightning sir, companies have to provide their own liquidity or turn to centralized solutions defeating the whole purpose of Bitcoin. A company like Amazon would need billions in Bitcoin for payments/refunds liquidity and would still have to face routing issues like failed transactions and inconsistant fees. Why would Amazon adopt this for less than %1 of people who don't even spend their Bitcoin?
Strawman(again), Appeal to consequences, hasty generalization, false dilemma(again). Try again.
Zzzzzzzz I came to battle not whatever this crap is lol booooring